User talk:The Yeti

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 NPA 3 Trillion 4 The number with many zeros 5 Spacecraft from other planets 6 I AM NOT AN EFFING SOCKPUPPET 7 Hexagesimal

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Welcome

Joe I 17:32, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPA

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. (This in reference to your comments on Talk:Celebrity sex tape.) | Mr. Darcy talk 02:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Referring to me as a "jobsworth." And FWIW, I can't block you for this anyway, given that we're in a content discussion. That would be inappropriate. However, you need to stop commenting on me and stick to questions of content. | Mr. Darcy talk 03:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Another message ? I did not call you a jobsworth, I said an admin should argue their point & not avoid answering by just stating 'it's policy'. I am also not commenting on you, except in answer to where you've decided to send me messages stating I am making personal attacks. I would gladly just stick to content if you would back up your arguments and stick to content too. The Yeti 04:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

(Let's keep this here, as it doesn't belong on the article's talk page.) Actually, you said I was behaving like a jobsworth, which is certainly a PA. I have backed up my arguments in the simplest way possible - by pointing to the policy. You've now been told by me and one other user that the policy is quite rigid. I'm not sure what else you'd like to hear. | Mr. Darcy talk 17:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trillion

Hi. Just a note. You moved Trillion to Trillion (disambiguation) by cut and paste. That is not a good idea, since it destroyed the page history of trillion. You should move things with the "move" tab on top which preserves the page history.

As you have since discovered, I did use the move command! User: The Yeti

I moved back Trillion (disambiguation) to Trillion. There is no need to use the name Trillion (disambiguation) for the disambiguation page, Trillion is more appropriate. (I also restored the page history.)

Also note that "trillion" is not the same as "trillian", so there was no need to merge the two pages.

You can reply here if you have comments. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello!

Re: Your message. Sorry for using the wrong command. The rationale I used was based on two things (though I understand your viewpoint, and the changes don't bother me) - i) trillion & trillian are effectively homonyms, so, as there was a disambiguation page, it just as useful to put trillian there, as a mis-spelling of trillion. After all, the disambiguation page is meant to be for such things when users are unsure how to spell the word correctly in the search box. & ii) the 'Trillion (disambiguation)' page was meant to parallel the 'Billion (disambiguation)' page. Please I beg do not change the general format of the 'billion (disambiguation)' page, as it has taken many users to come to an agreement (sort of) on how to handle the word 'billion' (in the English language it has two numerical meanings, 10^9 & 10^12), and there have been many arguments & edit wars over the word - see the billion & long and short scales talk pages & the histories! (it is also why there exists 1000000000 (number) and 1000000000000 (number) pages.) 'Trillion' similarly has two numerical meanings.

I guess that English is probably not you first language (but your English seems extremely good nonetheless), and so this dual number usage of 'billion' and 'trillion' may not not be immediately obvious, particularly outside of mathematical use, but it does cause many confusions, and so the whole long & short scale terminology and the Wiki links around them needs careful editing to allow consensus! (I mean no insult to you by this, should this come across clumsily). Ta. The Yeti 22:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not dispute that trillion and trillian are very similar. Yet they are not the same, and I think it is better to keep them on separate pages (but obviously mentioning "trillian" in the page for "trillion" and vice versa).

I am not happy with the 1000000000000 (number) article, but I won't get into an argument about it. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

You can reply on this page if you have comments. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:01, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I put the talk:billion note back on top. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I modified the 1000000000000 (number) article to be a redirect as per the previous consensus resulting from an AfD in June 2006. I'm also not happy with articles for these large numbers which appear to mostly trivia or obvious statements. Wikipedia shouldn't have pages for all numbers or even all powers of ten – these are dealt with quite effectively in Orders of magnitude (numbers); and the distinction between American and European systems is dealt with at Long and short scales. I'm not aware of any new consensus in favour of this article. Unless this becomes clear soon, I suggest that a new AfD is launched in order that a new consensus will emerge, and allow us to decide what to so with it. -- MightyWarrior 20:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The number with many zeros

I nominated it for deletion. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1000000000000 (number) 2nd nomin. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Please see my comment here . Cardamon 23:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spacecraft from other planets

Hi! Please see the discussion at Talk:Spacecraft#Spacecraft_from_other_planets. Thanks! (sdsds - talk) 14:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I AM NOT AN EFFING SOCKPUPPET

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Likely not a sockpuppet. Request handled by: —Ruud 10:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hexagesimal

You recently modified the redirect correction I made to a disambiguation page referring to both hexadecimal and sexagesimal. I don't disbelieve that the term "hexagesimal" is confused with "hexadecimal" by manies.

However, just like the term Vigesimal comes from lat. "viginti", eng. "twenty", the term Sexagesimal derives etymologically from the latin numeral "sexaginti" that means "sixty".
The latin prefix "sexa-" equals the greek "hexa-". Both mean "six". Thus "hexagesimal" is always synonym to "sexagesimal", never to "hexadecimal". Except by misusage or mistake.
-- Gluck 123 18:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)