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If you think that's improper formatting...

See Category:Japanese manga and anime characters, that's where I got my idea of doing that. Power level (Dragon Ball) 08:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

But I'm doing just like what someone did for the Sakura Haruno move, I'm being bold. There is more than one Kankurō out there, if you check the disambiguation page that is. Power level (Dragon Ball) 08:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Are you talking about the double redirects? I was gonna do 'em in the mornin' (yawns), I'm going to sleep in a few... Power level (Dragon Ball) 08:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I just realized what you meant. Thanks! Power level (Dragon Ball) 17:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Orochimaru (Naruto)

Why do we always end up fighting? He uses the damn Earth Clone Technique three times! Just like he uses Striking Shadow Snake (Senei'jasha) three times in the series. Do not revert nonchalantly again without a good reason on your edit summary. Power level (Dragon Ball) 21:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Note that if you revert the page again, you'll break 3rr. Power level (Dragon Ball) 21:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
My first edit to the article, which is not a revert, is not counted as a subsequent edit as 3rr, is it? In any case, I've asked for outside help. Power level (Dragon Ball) 21:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Neji Hyuga

Alright: do you not remember when Guy said to Lee: "Neji is a genius blah, blah, blah, but you can beat him with hard work Lee." You remember that, don't you? Also, I'm not sure if I did this right: Category:Fictional characters who can resurrect themselves... Power level (Dragon Ball) 06:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Wait, so you do have the first and second databooks then?! Can you send me a scan of that quote stuff? Also, see if the Kakashi being named Enoki is in there too. Thanks! Be sure to see if the phrase I put for Category:Fictional characters who can resurrect themselves is encyclopedic-like. Power level (Dragon Ball) 06:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Still awaiting that databook scan. Anyways, not all immortals can resurrect themselves after death. Some immortals actually die and don't come back to life. Garlic Jr and that Doctor of yours are such examples. Power level (Dragon Ball) 06:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, do you know of what websites I can find such scans? Page 109? Also, I added a lil' something to that resurrecion category... Power level (Dragon Ball) 06:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not blanking anything: I'm making it a separate unrelated category from the other so that there isn't any more of the parent cat. business. At least read my edit summaries for proof. Power level (Dragon Ball) 07:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Databooks

Hey, you there? I wanna ask you... Power level (Dragon Ball) 17:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Where does it say that redirects can't have categories? Honestly, SG, just listen for once, show me where it says that (policy or guideline). The Digimon redirects have 'em so why can't the Dragon Ball characters who are redirected have 'em? Power level (Dragon Ball) 01:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
What the hell did you just tell me?! Just answer me this, why do the Digimon articles get to have catgories even though most are redirected yet most have them in the redirect thingy anyway? Power level (Dragon Ball) 01:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Show me where it is said (the specific policy/guideline) to be unecessary and I'll fix up all of the unecessary categories I did for the Dragon Ball redirects and I'll even do the Digimon redirects correctly also. Show me... Power level (Dragon Ball) 01:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

This is from User:Causesobad

Look he told me this and now I'm giving it to you to handle.Sam ov the blue sand 21:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

You still wonder about the reasons why I added these cats? As you want to know. I’ll explain to you with my plainest clarification.

1) FICTIONAL EVIL GENIUSES This cat has 2 main factors: Evil and genius, which combine into evil genius.

  • Evil: Sasori is evil, no one can deny this. He exterminated a village, killed all villgers and turned the corpses into human puppets. Those clues are enough to make him defined as “evil”.
  • Genius: Let’s see the definition of genius from Wiki: “A genius is a person with great intelligence. The term also applies to one who is a polymath, or someone skilled in many mental areas. The term specifically applies to mental skills rather than anything else, although it is also colloquially used to denote the possession of a superior talent in any field; e.g., Diego Maradona or Jose Macia may be said to have a genius for soccer, or Winston Churchill for statesmanship.” Another definition from Answers.com:

a. • Extraordinary intellectual and creative power.
b. A person of extraordinary intellect and talent: “One is not born a genius, one becomes a genius” (Simone de Beauvoir).
c. A person who has an exceptionally high intelligence quotient, typically above 140.
a. • A strong natural talent, aptitude, or inclination: has a genius for choosing the right words.
b. One who has such a talent or inclination: a genius at diplomacy.

Why is Sasori considered a genius? Because of his undeciable talent in various fields:

- Akatsuki member (an organization which contains almost all of geniuses). Also, what Sasori has demonstrated through Part II series is obvious clues for his talent.

- Killed the Third Kazekage, the strongest Kazekage ever known in history of Sunagakure.

- Master puppeteer: Chiyo can be regarded as a genius in puppet manipulation, but Sasori is even much better. His talent in puppetry is shown from early age, which is a notable mark for genius-nature. With high creativity demonstrated through the creation of human puppet and using them as powerful weapons, it’s hard to find another puppeteer who is more prominent than Sasori. According to the definition I have mentioned above: “The term specifically applies to mental skills rather than anything else, although it is also colloquially used to denote the possession of a superior talent in any field…” We don’t know exactly Sasori’s IQ but at least Sasori can be considered a “genius” in “puppetry” field and he completely meets the criteria for a “genius” appellation.

- Master of poisons: Sasori himself is able to concoct fatal poison that “takes effect instantly and kill the target after three days of suffering”. A good brain for chemistry.

- Mechanical intellect to create a lot of malign traps: remember that if it hadn’t been for the attendance of Chiyo, who has known thoroughly Sasori’s complex traps, Sakura might have said goodbye to Naruto.

In conclusion, let’s imagine of a person who is a master in many fields: puppetry, poisons, killed the most powerful Kazekage, intelligent enough to create complex traps, and last but not least, whose talent has been apparently shown from childhood is perfectly fitted with the definition of “genius”.

  • “Evil genius”: I bring the definition of “evil genius from Wiki article: “The Evil Genius is an archetype or even a caricature that is a recurring staple in certain genres of fiction, particularly comic books, spy fiction, action films and cartoons. The evil genius serves as a common adversary and foil of the hero.

As the term suggests, evil geniuses are characters of great intelligence who choose to use their knowledge for antisocial ends. To qualify as an evil genius, one must use cunning to craft complex plots that cause havoc and destruction; criminal tendencies are a must. Their schemes often hinge on mundane details that heroes can exploit, foiling their plots at the climax of the story.”

=> As I have analysed the two factors “evil” and “genius” and to make a comparison to this combined definition, Sasori qualifies as an “evil genius”.

Also, see the origin of an “evil genius “Evil geniuses have commonly had difficult childhoods. They may have been orphans or witnessed their parents' horrible deaths.” => Again, Sasori’s case meets this criterion. I suggest you read some characters’ articles in the cat so you’ll have a deeper insight into the definition and you’ll understand when we put a character in this cat and why. OK, I have clarified why Sasori should be in Category:Fictional Evil Geniuses. Now I’ll come to the next one.

2) FICTIONAL SERIAL KILLERS
About this problem, at least other 2 editors agree with me, including Power Level and Arfan. But there’s a difference between the versions of mine and PL’s. Mine is FSK and PL’s is Fictional mass murderer. However, after taking into consideration, I decide to put the cat FSK which is more accurate in the definition (though the two share nearly the same meaning). Again, I’ll begin with “what’s a serial killer”?

“A serial killer is someone who kills several victims in three or more separate events with an emotional cooling off period in between the homicides. The cooling off period may last days, weeks, months, or years, and reference to separate events and separate locations, Many are psychopaths, who are considered personality disordered and not psychotic, and thus appear to be quite normal and often even charming, a state of adaptation which Hervey Cleckley calls the "mask of sanity."

From Answers.com: “A person who attacks and kills victims one by one in a series of incidents.”

As you know, Sasori has massacred a whole village, means that he must have killed “several victims” as noted above (im fact a hundreds of people). Also, his killing may happen through his time in Akatsuki for several events, not only in the bound of a village. It means that he has done his role as a “serial killer” in “three or more separate events”, which we don’t know exactly.

Moreover, Sasori’s serial killing also comes from “personality disordered” (in which include the criterion: The pattern is stable and of long duration and its onset can be traced back at least to adolescence or early adulthood) because of his losing beloved parents and the method of education in Sunagakure.

What makes a “serial killer” different from a “mass murderer”?
“Mass murderer”: Mass murder (massacre) is the act of murdering a large number of people, typically at the same time, or over a relatively short period of time. Mass murder may be committed by individuals or organizations.

The term may not always be applied in relation to the acts of serial killers, who may kill many people, but not necessarily all at the same time.

Except for the time killing the whole village, Sasori may still commit some “killing events” in the background that we don’t know. Thus, “serial killer” is more accurate.
Hope that those explanations will clarify a bit why I added 2 cats.

P/S: I always welcome you to be my fellow wikipedian. There’s only one thing I want to say, please respect other editors’ edits and consider the info they put in the articles before “blindly reverting” because everyone must have their basis before they add certain details (except for IP and other vandalisers, I mean). Naruto-related articles seem to become a monopoly areas for some specific users like Someguy0830, Snapper, TTN and everything must come though their “censorship” before becoming an “official information”, which sometimes make me very annoyed… I hope that you won’t act like that and we’ll happily and equally collaborate to improve more articles. Causesobad → (Talk) 15:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Uh huh. What a speech... Arfan (Talk) 18:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

IP reverting

There seems to be an IP with a vendetta against you[1]. You might want to check out if you can help stopping this user. Gdo01 00:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Power level (Dragon Ball)

You seem much better at explaining things to him than I am, so could you try to get his little wikilawyering halt of the Bojack, Janemba and Tullece redirects to stop? I understand if you've already dealt with him enough for today. Nemu 02:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess that is the only option. I just really hate doing this like that because of just one stubborn person. Nemu 02:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'm flattered. I'm just tryin' to do what I think is right. Redirecting an article(s) without the community being notified and agreeing with it is not good. I applause the both of you for puttin' em up for deletion/redirection though. Power level (Dragon Ball) 04:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

SummerThunder sockfest

What fun! I'll keep an eye out for more ;) – riana_dzasta 08:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Tell me...

Hey,

Just one quick comment. For the List of Naruto Arcs I fixed the incorrect name Suigetsu to the correct name Mizugetsu from the manga and you just said "no" and switched it back. I'm assuming you are reading the manga when you keep up with this.

69.163.16.124 23:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


Hi there, Someguy0830!

You seem to reverted my edits to Ben 10. I've got no problem with that, but can you tell me what I generally got wrong in my edits so I can do better next time?

Thanks, --PostScript 02:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Category:Fictional characters with the power of advanced hearing

Hi there. Would you happen to know of one or more fictional characters who have such an ability? I don't watch Ben 10, InuYasha, BLEACH, or Code Lyoko, but you do, right? Do any of the characters in those shows have such powers? Anyways, do ya mind helping me out here by helping me add the category to said characters? Thanks! Power level (Dragon Ball) 08:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh good, you're around. Do you know of any fictional characters with super hearing powers? Power level (Dragon Ball) 09:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, Neji Hyuga is a genius. Even the article says so and so does the series. What did you want me to read exactly? Power level (Dragon Ball) 09:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
What the hell does that mean?! He is a genius, that's it. Just like Sarutobi, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Sakura, Orochimaru, and Sasuke in the Naruto series. In DBZ, Son Gohan is considered a genius because he's a straight-A student! Guess what? Even Neji was a straight-A student because he had the highest scores in the academy class. Where there even a discussion about him not being a genius on a talk page or somethin'? Power level (Dragon Ball) 09:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm guessing you don't have a reason, do you? I'll re-add it back since you seem to understand my point. Power level (Dragon Ball) 09:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Calm down, dude. It's just an article. Now tell me, what two characters of the seven/eight I listed above did you mean are actually geniuses? And seriously, accept the fact that Neji is a genius according to three reasons given in the manga:
  1. He was top of the graduating academy class with straight A's
  2. His sensei, Might Guy, reveals to Rock Lee that Neji is a genius
  3. That Hyuga guy (Hiashi, methinks his name) says that he is a genius during the Chunin examinations
Basically, Neji is a genius overall, both in brains and in ability. What more do ya want? If you want manga scans, I'll get them for you... besides, you claim to have the Naruto databooks, right? What does it say about Neji's profile? Power level (Dragon Ball) 09:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
So, Shikamaru and who else is a genius? I understood just now what you meant. Ya coulda just said that Neji was a genius in talent, not brains. So, who else? Son Gohan or Orochimaru? Or is it the Third? ... ... ... Power level (Dragon Ball) 09:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Let me try that in English: WHO ELSE IS A GENIUS THAT I LISTED ABOVE?! Power level (Dragon Ball) 09:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Fine. I'll just categorize everyone else who's a geinus except for Neji, I guess. Ya know, I'm pretty tired too (yawns, then drinks water...) yeah, it's pretty late, isn't it? Well, at least we've gone through another day, right? Power level (Dragon Ball) 10:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Soft Physique Modification

Let me explain to you why the above jutsu is a "recognizable" technique of his:

  1. In the manga, he is first seen using it to stretch his head to bite Sasuke in order to curse him
  2. In the manga, he is seen using it again to bite Jiraiya during the three Sannin battle (but couldn't curse Jiraiya since his arms were useless at the time)
  3. He does it once more when he impales four-tailed Kyubi Naruto by extending his head and releasing an extended Kusanagi to Naruto
See what I mean? It is a notable, yet "recognizable" ability/skill/technique/jutsu of his; nothing more, nothing less. Power level (Dragon Ball) 21:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Just be more civil then. So, I'll re-add the ability since it is a notable and common jutsu of his. Any other objections? Power level (Dragon Ball) 21:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey, you're good with citations, right? Can you help me fix the two links on List of Saiyans in Dragon Ball#Burdock? I've tried and tried but could not get them to appear. It's so hard! Also, why can't the shortcut box be added to the Power level (Dragon Ball) article if they're on the other articles I placed them at? Power level (Dragon Ball) 23:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, ok! Forget that, but can you help me fix the links on Burdock? Please? If ya need to, utilize what was once the main article of the character to see how the links were put in the first place. Thanks a bunch! Power level (Dragon Ball) 23:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Um, hello?! Didn't we discuss that the Soft Physique Modification technique is a notable/signature jutsu since it was used at least three times in the manga? Why are you removing the technique then? Power level (Dragon Ball) 23:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Why are you removing the shortcut templates from the Dragon Ball related articles? I actually asked you to fix Burdock's source links and you do otherwise? How come?! If you don't explain, I'll revert your edits since you're blanking sections and links for no reason... Power level (Dragon Ball) 23:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
What is so notable about Hinata's filler attack? If she can have hers, why can't Orochimaru, Sarutobi, etc., have theirs? Power level (Dragon Ball) 00:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! I didn't know Orochimaru was made up of snakes. Haven't read the new chapter yet. Futher, how does he do it? Anyways, tell me this: why are you removing all of the shortcut boxes al over Wikipedia. Also, when can ya fix up Burdock's paragraph? I'd like to know... Power level (Dragon Ball) 00:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
You plan to have the shortcut boxes deleted? Power level (Dragon Ball) 00:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Eve

This has a possible genealogy, it is not certain. There are multiple sources which put Eve's birth to this time period. Just leave it be.

These are common beliefs in Bible study, read http://www.abiblestudy.com/part1.html. Please leave it alone.
Can you please show me how to reference the article correctly?
Why are you making such a big deal about it if it doesn't have to be cited. There are plenty of other beliefs of Eve on that page, why can't there be one from a modern Christian perspective? I have other sources to back it up. Pyroteknx 03:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Try reading the timeline I linked above as well as reading the Antediluvian page and related articles. Pyroteknx 03:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Most of the lineage is traced right in Genesis. These sources attempt to place a date on them. Pyroteknx 03:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Genesis in the Christian Bible is very incomplete, Judaic records have much more of a complete record. The Christian Bible excludes many of the names, especially the females. The beginning of the Antediluvian period begins at ~4000 BC. I can change the wording around to generalize it. I can also change the heading to Creationist Beliefs or something of that nature as well. Pyroteknx 03:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Kakuzu

How does getting a new heart not change his natural affinity?Sam ov the blue sand 22:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

bleach character template

...so we're going alphabetical? i thought we were putting arrancar in numerical order, match the division setup of the shinigami and such... --Grimjaw 17:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Chapter 344

It is out fool, came out yesterday. I know what I said, and by now, you can find it everywhere online by now "Fool." ---Dragon son

I don't think we are allowed to do that. ---Dragon son

Fine, well do it your way, but no this, though I my disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it... ---Dragon son

Oh will you get of your high horse! Dragon Son 20:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)Dragon son

Not sure about this

Did you mean to get rid of my entire edit in Orochimaru's backround because now there is no information on Orochimaru's true form there.Sam ov the blue sand 18:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you up to it?

Hi again, Someguy0830!

Well, the folks at Talk:Ben 10 want someone to use the {{{title}}}. template as a source for all the Ben 10 information. I don't want to do it, as I have done enough damage already to the Ben 10 artice. xD! Are you up to it? --PostScript 21:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Naruto

I was rather tired that day.. In fact, I'm kinda tired right now. I added the seven (actually I think it was ten..) spaces because it would've overlapped with another template.. I have no real excuse for not discussing the changes; I can't even remember why I added it. Also, I think I added the the wrong template; The first one I was trying to add would've overlapped with the text of the other template, but the second one probably would've just had part of it behind the other template.. If I did in fact add that one. I thought I mentioned the change on the talk page, but I guess not.Repku

Moving

no wonder. I was wondering why there haven't been your edits. good luck with moving! -Sphinxridd 16:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello Someguy0830,

I edited the Maito Gai (Might Guy) article in January because it had sounded like he was being down-played on his own article. I will edit Maito Gai's, or any other character's article I feel like -- if I think something else about the article doesn't sound right and can be worded better -- just like one can do on Wikipedia. Now do you see? Do you understand?

Sign your posts and quit being so dramatic. You Can't See Me! 23:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFCN

There's an RFC for the username of a User:Someguy1221 on the grounds that it is confusing with your name. His 2000 edits since late Jan look fine. What is your view on the matter? NikoSilver 21:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

After your comments at RFCN, I closed the discussion as allow. I had a similar situation a couple of days ago. Asked the original user whether they minded, they didn't, job done! :) Bubba hotep 21:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

uploading manga pics

hey someguy, i was directed her by Sam ov the blue sand about a question i asked him about uploading manga scans

basically i was wondering what the policy/procedure was for this as i am kinda planning on fixing up the O-Parts_Hunter page and there is a very large lack of pictures so i thought i'd add some

thanks for your time,

Ancientanubis 22:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Go Easy on Dragon Son

Go easy on Dragon Son. For all you know, he might be Masashi Kishimoto himself trying to correct the Naruto Wikipedia articles. (-: Moonwalkerwiz 06:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

End This

Yeah yeah I hear you already and what I said is not half-ass Japanese but I don't wanna start another arguement. I have better things to do in my life than argue with people over things. I apologize for acting like a jackass. I actually forgot that Japanese characters can be translated into more than just one phrase. Still it wouldn't hurt if you meantioned what I said as well. They're both right. If we can, I'd rather work with you on certain topics rather than argue with you and fight about whose right, wrong, or indifferent. If you accept then let me know, if not then it can't be helped. YungLegend07

Infobox

How about we ask what the others think in the discussion area instead of your usual I'm right and everybody else is wrong approach, that way there can be some compromise involved?--Emokid200618 00:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Possible Kekkei Genkai

I still think that this is unencyclopedic. All it contains is a pair of abilities that "might-or-might-not" be kekkei genkai. Now, you said that pointing them out is not Original Research; so I retract that claim. However, there is something wrong with that, and I don't know the proper term.

Point being, the article is about kekkei genkai, not abilities that could possibly be bloodline traits. The same situation would occur if one added to its relevant article: "The Forth Hokage may be Naruto's father, or it could just be a coincidence."

Now, I agree that having mouths in your palm might seem like something you would see in a kekkei genkai, due to most bodily abilities (Byakugan, Sharingan, etc) being bloodline limits. So in that case, Hidan's immortality and voodoo technique might be a kekkei genkai. So could Kazuku's cables and body-hardening. And it doesn't stop there, since Mokuton and Hyoton have little to do with one's body. Maybe Tayuya's capability to use her flute is a kekkei genkai because it mixes chakra in some unmentioned way or another. Perhaps Shikamaru's shadow manipulation jutsu are like Haku's ice-manipulating jutsu, in that they are jutsu triggered by a kekkei genkai. The list could go on and on.

Furthermore, Kidomaru's extra arms and web secretions and Shino's capability of hosting destruction bugs are, in my opinion, the closest things to kekkei genkai in the series. But those have been officially stated not to be kekkei genkai. That said, the "affects the body" bit of evidence has been taken out of the equation. So really, there's no basis on guessing whether an ability is blood-related or not. Until officially stated, they should be taken off. You Can't See Me! 21:40, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Ben 10 images

Fair use rationale for Image:Ben10showlogo.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:Ben10showlogo.JPG. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Malkinann 22:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Your edits to Ino Yamanaka

Look, Ino is training to become a medical ninja like Sakura. For proof go to the talk page and visit the video. Please do not remove Ino's medic-nin rank again. Candyo32 03:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Someguy0830. As parallel, academy students are training to become ninja, but they shouldn't be labeled as such until they complete their training. –Gunslinger47 05:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

This getting rid of stuff thing...

Someguy, you have a real bad habit of getting rid of my things and other people's things we edit and you delete them without a good reason why. "Pointless", "so", and "no" aren't very good reasons why you get rid of people's edits. And just because you don't like them does not mean you can get rid of them because you hate them. So please stop with this rude bad habit you have. --Naruto134 3:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Just watch Cartoon Network and see the proof, get it to your stupid brain! IT IS TRUE AND STOP FOLLOWING ME EVERYWHERE I EDIT AT WIKIPEDIA AND ENOUGH OF THIS! JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! --Naruto134 10:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Well what if someone else puts the same thing I put huh? What if there are other websites that says what I said? Your going to feel really stupid for getting something that was true. Just you wait you stubborn idiot, when someone else puts what I put and that you got rid of, your going to feel pretty stupid for not believing someone who was telling the truth. --Naruto134 10:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Well what if you see the comerical that shows what I said huh? Just like I said in my last post, your going to feel really stupid for getting something that was true. Just you wait you stubborn idiot, when someone else puts what I put and that you got rid of, your going to feel pretty stupid for not believing someone who was telling the truth. And your not going to get rid of it even if it is true! --Naruto134 11:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
See? Now you know what it's like being annoyed by someone that keeps following you! I can complain all I want until you get that what I put was true!

This means the mummy alien was freed by Ghostfreak, it defrosted or another of its kind appeared.

Just because I put that doesn't mean you have to get rid of the whole thing I put too! I tried to be nice at first, but you just crossed the line! --Naruto134 11:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

What your doing is considered as administrator abuse, misusing your administrating powers. --Naruto134 11:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Will you mind your own business, stop following me to start something, and quit getting rid of things you don't like! I'm sure all the wikipedia users hate you because of what you always do! --Naruto134 12:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Well would you look at that! So put exactly what I put yesterday on the Ben 10 character page! I told what I said was true! You just redirect my stuff and have other people put it there to piss me off! ----Naruto134 12:56am, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
"I'm sure all the wikipedia users hate you because of what you always do!"
Actually I find it somewhat amusing. Someguy0830 does good work on Wikipedia and is quite knowledgeable of policy. He could use some more civil and verbose explanations, I suppose, but it's not my place to complain. –Gunslinger47 01:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Civil and verbose explanations? Where's the fun in that?! :DYou Can't See Me! 10:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC) Edit: Drats! That made me forget what I was going to ask. Eh, I'll be back with a question some time later, Someguy.
God dang it Someguy, quit following me! I'm sickin's tired of you butting in my business! Go annoy someone else with the editing stuff! Bewildebeast said on his page to stop with the personal attacks and emotive language which you are doing!

"To be honest I think you both need to calm down and clearly and calmly explain your positions to each other without resorting to any kind of personal attack or emotive language. The whole thing's been blown way out of proportion, by both of you."

I know he was talking me but he was also talking to you too! --Naruto134 4:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

How is The Return talk page a personal attack to you? I was just asking people if they watched The Return previews and prove to you that the mummy alien and the yenaldooshi things were true. That had absolutely nothing to do with a personal attack. Your just saying that because you delete everything I put on wikipedia.--Naruto134 6:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
But the one thing I was right about is you being rude which you are. I know said some rude things, but your the one encouraging me to say rude things, so it's mostly your fault for me saying rude things. If you hadn't said:

"pointless, this is lame, stop being a idiot, don't be a moron, quit acting like a child"

than I wouldn't have been rude. Now if you responded nicely, I wouldn't have been rude and lost my temper. Besides, you sort of deserved the dissing for being so rude and responding rudely. If you would of responded like this:

"Please wait till the episode airs to put this information. Thank you."

I would have understand and wait until the episode airs. But instead, you answered like this:

"no speculation. I don't care. It's still speculation. Quit being ignorant for once and pay attention. It is speculation when you speculate on why they're back. Period. You can complain all you want and WP:V supports me. Deal with it.".

Answering like that is unexpectable and makes me lose it. And now you understand why I repeat editings and why I start hissy fitts. To prevent this, say the following in bold. --Naruto134 6:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to be nice to you but you keep responding to me rudely. Please, how is it hard for you to be nice? Your trying to pick a fight with me and your acting like I'm the bad guy and right now, I trying to be nice and asking you nicely, please respond nicely to me next time when I edit something. I mean it, I will respond more nicely and understand if you would calmly resond to me nicely. If you keep saying rude things then I wouldn't understand. And if you say I'm choosing not to understand, then you're wrong. I would really understand if people would answer me nicely. And if your'e going to say something like you said on my talk page and ignore my beggings for you to be more nice, than you're a rude cruel person who does not understand other people's feelings.--Naruto134 7:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
As long as the rudeness stops, I'll let it go.--Naruto134 7:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Hey, thanks for reverting the edit to my userpage from narutofanz. I appreciate it! --HubHikari 08:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Comicdud

No offense, but I'm reverting your edit. If he wants his page that way that's his business. Nardman1 02:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ben 10 Omnitrix

Earlier I edited the page for The Omnitrix to add new information about some new updates that happened (I wasnt logged in at the time) and then you removed them. Now although the episodes haven't aired in America yet they have over here in the United Kingdom, I have the episodes recorded, and in them there were a few Omnitrix changes made such as Ben using The Mummy for the first time, Ben collecting the DNA from Dr Victor and then transforming into an Omitrix vertion of him and finally a new Ghostfreak icon appearing on The Omnitrix. Just letting you know that I wasn't making this information up.

Added by Gaiash (talk • contribs) 17:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC).


I agree that I could use screenshots. But sadly I don't have the right equipment to take them.

Added by Gaiash (talk • contribs) 23:23, 6 April 2007 (UK time).


I do but the quality is quite poor when taking photos of my TV. And since its the Easter holiday I can't use the College computers to transfer the footage to the computer.

Added by Gaiash (talk • contribs) 23:29, 6 April 2007 (UK time).

Someguy are you the one who is putting that the name of the mummy and frankenstein alien is Rehotep or Benmummy and Benenstein? Cause if you are thats not there names. Just because the wolf alien is Benwolf doesn't mean the rest are the same. Sunspot13 15:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey I dont watch the credits but the episode is coming on tonight I will check and see for myself. Sorry if I made any problems to you I'm relatively new so I was having a hard time trying to communicate with you hopefully this does it. Seems we have a lot in common. I watch many of the same shows you watch. Hate to make an enemy with someone I have shared intrests with. Sunspot13 15:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Two Questions

No I'm not here to complain or start anything. I'm here to ask you two questions. Do you have a account at Tv.com? Because I noticed this one user has the same username as you. And the second question, did anyone ever make a page for Ben 10: Hero Generation? If they did, did the page get deleted? Because at the Ben 10 page, it said it was redirected to from Hero Generations or something. --Naruto134 2:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I knew you had an account at Tv.com with the same username here. I have an account at Tv.com. My username is nacholibre92. --Naruto134 4:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Ben 10 Userbox

I noticed you removed the picture from my Ben 10 Userbox. With all due respect, I would like to point out that I asked for help on the fair use issue, not deconstruction. --Ben 10 20:32, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I got your message. Fair enough. --Ben 10 20:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Ganime and Kameba

Sorry about that. I've been doing it wrong fro quite a while and not realizing it. Now I know better. --Scottandrewhutchins 04:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


Hello, Someguy0830, since you have seen, many Accounts IP an changed to the alien de names stranger with many names, so I prefer to leave the Frankenfreak name momentarily him, if she is that your you support to me

Ultra JG (My talk) 11:33 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Uchia Clan talk

I m just trying to add a point that will help it his discussion and prove that the tobi=obito theory isnt concrete so people dont try to vandalize the article also im taking your side so im kinda confused why you would erase my comment and not their pointless discussions --Zetsuie 05:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

It looks like you were basically saying "you shouldn't speculate, and by the way, here is a paragraph of my own personal speculation." –Gunslinger47 05:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes

I noticed you removed the picture from several of my userboxes. Just for clarity's sake, which pictures AM I allowed to use?! Just so you know I have direct permission from the guy who put that picture on Wikipedia to use it in my userbox. Please explain the deletions. --Ben 10 13:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Simpsons episode

Your edits to the infobox simpsons episode stuffed up the image caption field, so I have reverted to the last working version for now. I will take a look at your edits, see what went wrong, and restore your edits with corrections made asap. thanks--M W Johnson 02:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting that out.--M W Johnson 02:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Pinkeye

Do you think you might be speculating a little much?[2] You could be right for the leader, but at least for Kakuzu this seems like a questionable assertion. He might simply have pink sclera. –Gunslinger47 01:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

naruto shuuppiden chapter 351

i can see what youre talking about but youre really leaving out too much suff. i mean you completely skipped over Suigestu's talk with the prsoner. And only said that suigestua and jugo clashed once. thats just my opinoin but i guess you have more experince at this then me so whatever.

Naruto the Movie 4

Film is dated for August 4, not for April 21, this is the date for the tickets presale!!!

There is a error on the japanese translation of the trailer.

http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/naruto/movie2007/index.html

Need Help With Articles

Uhhh.....I am trying to find out how to post an article and if it would cost me money to do so. Your input would be greatly appreciated. YungLegend07 6:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

List of ethnic groups in Myanmar

Thank you for restoring blanked text at List of ethnic groups in Myanmar. Badagnani 22:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

April 2007

Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: List of ninjutsu in Naruto (S-Z). If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. I also suggest you read WP:3RR, if it was not clear that you were following consensus, you might have been blocked yourself. TimVickers 02:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I apologize, but may I please see a link to my friend's "personal attack"? I don't think I caught it in the edit history. // DecaimientoPoético 02:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Eh, I told the guy to "for fucks sake, read the damn paragraph" since he fails to notice the thing about the Fourth Hokage written not two sentences beyond the line he kept changing. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
That'd be incivility, not a personal attack. FFS! :-D –Gunslinger47 03:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I had a feeling that was it, but I don't consider that to be a PA so I didn't want to simply assume. But I agree with Gunslinger. A bit uncivil, but not a personal attack. // DecaimientoPoético 13:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I need your help

Hey man, I need your help on a project. I'm doing the Jin-Roh: The Wolf Briage Character profile for Kazuki Fuse. I can do his information but I need to add background color to the title, occuation, creater(s), Designer(s), voice actor (english), and voice actor (japanese) boxes. The color I chose is United Nations Azure but I can't seem to get in there right. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.YungLegend07 23:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about that Gwen commet, I don't know what got into me.Anubiz 21:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok now I need your help lol

I have written the article and now I need the infobox. I need your help on this particular area. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by YungLegend07 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for the help man. Anyway, how do you think I should organize my page? YungLegend07 12:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Upchuck

I was just wondering if you have the episode where he appears on tape or can access a good resolution? Because I actually know of a great point where more than four folded tongues can be seen within his mouth. Magugag 04:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, posted this on the wrong page at first! Alright, this is a tad tricky to catch, but when he is speaking to Xylene, specifically when he asks: 'What's this thing supposed to do' pause when his mouth is wide. You can see more than four folded tongues inside, I think I count six as the max visible. If you notice anything wrong with that, just let me know, but I'm looking at the picture right now and fairly certain. Magugag 04:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah, good call. I wouldn't have seen that. Magugag 04:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Susan Clancy title

Er, so where does "Ph.D." go then? And why are you edit stalking me? -Eep² 10:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Stupid revert

I know, that was a mistake. I'm sorry, your edit was legitimate, I don't know how it happened, I must have accidentally clicked the link, because I didn't warn you. Sorry for the mix up. Dfrg.msc 04:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Crap! How did that happen? I mean, yeah, really sorry, thanks for your forgiveness. Cheers! Dfrg.msc 04:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Ulquiorra mugshot.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Ulquiorra mugshot.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Malkinann 21:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't like this. I brought up the subject on Wikipedia talk:Non-free content#Mandatory screenshot resolution reduction and so far no one seems to have a good argument for it. –Gunslinger47 19:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, Someguy0830. I was wondering if you could show me how to make citations that have little letter superscripts (I don't know what they're called, but they look like a b c d that). I made 5 cites to the article Uryū Ishida in his infobox, and I since they all have the same thing in their refs, I want to put them in that kind of cite. I've seen it in other articles, but I can't do it. Your help is most appreciated. Thank you for your time!The Hippie 23:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thank you very much. I found out right after I posted this, since Sepiroth BCR changed them to the multi-use refs. But your explanation cleared things up. Thanks! The Hippie 23:15, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Omnitrix

You: Future alien forms - small sections don't need a pic

The section deals with alien forms of the Omnitrix. The Megawat is a Omnitrix form. There is absolutly no reason for there not to be a pic with the section. WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA?! --Jason Palpatine 16:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Images

Hi, i'm a new user, named Ben-spam. It wanted to know, as you manage to lower so brilliant images? , if it is thus, I occurred it and also it wanted that you lower a new photo of Benmummy and Benvicktor, if you can.

Thanks, Ben-spam 15:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

So that I cannot use my image of Exo-Skull? Right to use it just as you with yours!
Ya, en verdad, soy argentino, y te quiero decir que me digas como bajas esas imagenes y por que no tengo derecho a usar imagen de Exo-Skull, she.
Good, it sees the page of google and where it says: Language Tools, you put and you look for where it says: Spansh to Inglish and has you translate it
It stops to put that image, thus one does not know as he is the Dr. Animo, in addition, the face is not seen him.
Before you were well and the equal article, but your obsecion is going to take to you to the ruin if you follow thus. Stop please.
We could finish and leave articles equal before you began to have this evil obsesion.


Kevin 11 image

You wrote: rather than create more orphaned fair-use images, upload your replacements over existing ones.

Uh, (sctraching head) I thought I did. --Jason Palpatine 22:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

You also removed the image of his human appearance -- and listed the picture of his HEATBLAST form as his human appearance. What's the joke?

You and I are both editing this thing at the same time it would seem. Any way we can chat?

--Jason Palpatine 23:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Update your cache, I switched it. Two images at the most for any character. more than that is beyond excessive. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

disagree big time --Jason Palpatine 23:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

And policy would disagree with you. I've had to put up with on Naruto articles, with the much culling, so I'm trying to keep something similar from happening. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Like I said before... and Que Sera, Sera. Jason Palpatine 05:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
I see that the uploaded Ben10 ep07 image.JPG has been deleted from the database. Efficient, and... Thank-you. -- Jason Palpatine 05:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Exo-Skull

Ok, before we get into another cross-editing scramble (sheeshhhhhhhhhhhhhh), why did you remove the posted image of the villan known as Exo-Skull? --Jason Palpatine 02:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


Because he appears for all of three minutes. Don't want to turn the article into a gaggle of fair-use images. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
In that event, why does he even rate an entry on the list, complete with description? --Jason Palpatine 07:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

ilikeits

  1. Don't look at me... not this time.
  2. I gatta ask: what is an ilikeit?

-- Jason Palpatine 23:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC) This User wishes to (but too often fails at) understand Wikipedia's systematized logistical projection of its balanced policy contingency. (speak your mind | contributions)

Ben 10 articles

Will you please explain to me (as if I were a newbie here) what is going on with the Ben 10 articles? All 36 of them have been turned into redirects. I've never before seen such a brazen act of vandalism -- and it appears to be condoned by you and others. -- Jason Palpatine 06:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC) This User wishes (but too often fails) understanding of Wikipedia's systematized logistical projection of its balanced policy contingency. (speak your mind | contributions)

While certainly brazen, it isn't vandalism. Boldness, yes, and quickness on the trigger one might even say, but not vandalism. Those articles were a mess, anyway, as all they did was summarize the plot. That can be done in a single paragraph. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Did anyone ever tell you that you have a talent for understatement? I don't remember what show that line is from. Detailed sumarizations are sometimes really all there is to it -- we are dealing with fiction here. Maybe we should just delete the whole Ben 10 material in it's entirty? After all, Sumarization is still a large (majority) part of the whole thing. I told you before, a lot of people pout a lot of effort into those articles. Quite franklly, I'm tempted to be as brazen as him.
In all fainess, if we are going to stick with this brazen decision, then the List of Ben 10 episodes article will need to be enlarged. Too enlarged. The paragraphs for each episode section will need to be enhanced to provide at least some real degree of plot information. A handfull of sentences just doesn't cut it.
Out of curiosity -- why were you surprised by the fact that I am the one objecting in this matter?
As for the synopsiss articles, there are many precidents all over the web for such articles. Have you ever been the the Lurker's Guide To Babylon 5? It contains detailed (more than even what we are discussing) plot synopsisses of every episode. Similar synopsises exist elsewhere. Is there a Ben 10 site where the synopisses can be moved to? Just as there is such a thing as too much, there is such a thing as too little. I submit that what we have been reduced to in this matter constitutes way too little. -- Jason Palpatine 07:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC) This User wishes (but too often fails) understanding of Wikipedia's systematized logistical projection of its balanced policy contingency. (speak your mind | contributions)
I would agree that the episode descriptions need to be expanded, and yes, I have been told about my understating talents at least once before (completely serious). As for the episode articles, I wrote about a third of them, but that doesn't mean I'm terribly attached. The more general Ben 10 info has a few creator interviews and such for outside sources. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I know. Why else do you think I am on line with you discussing the matter at this time? Answer: respect. Jason Palpatine 07:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Must Revert Immediatly

I've been doing some looking around the site. There are MANY MANY simalar articles thoughout right here. Please take the time to follow the links bellow. Each one is similar to the original Ben 10 episodes liting. All of them (there are a lot more where these came from) are reference links to individulal episode articles:


There are WAY too many examples/precidents on site for the ation we have been discussing to be allowed to stand. It is clearly a proper policy here for there to be a central listing of episodes article for a given series that provides links to individual articles for each episode. The extent of this practice is far too widespread though out the encylopedia for this to be considered anything but vandalism under the guise of editing/policy. If the fact that the articles contain mostly synopsisses, then people should endevoure to add whatever additional material they would consider helpfull.

Whatever, we must act quickly. Or is it the intention of TT and others to eliminate the entire extent of individual episodic articles everywhere on the encyclopedia? You put a lot of effort into those articles. You are an even bigger fan of the show than I could ever be -- there's just no comparison between the two of us. I only hold a pair of dueces whereas you have a royale flush.

You said earlier, that you were surprised by the fact that I am the one (only one it seems) objecting to what's happened here. To be blunt, given everything I've discovered over the past 2 hours, I am astounded that you, of all the people here, do not object. -- Jason Palpatine 09:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC) This User wishes (but too often fails) understanding of Wikipedia's systematized logistical projection of its balanced policy contingency. (speak your mind | contributions)

PS: Just to let you know... I post a Wikimood meter on my talkpage to let everyone in on how I am feeling here. For the first time ever, the meter is set at minus 10. -- JP

PS

From My Talk Page:

Jason, I'm sorry if it appears that I'm just being mean, and I'd like to apologize on behalf on Someguy and TTN if you feel that way about them too. I don't mean to be harsh, and I'm pretty sure that the others share my sentiments. We are just out to clean up articles so that they adhere to Wikipedia policy, and you have taken to defend that which we see as unnecessary. I'm very sorry if I offended you at all over the course of our debates. I shall try to be more civil in the debate from this point on, but may I ask that you try to be more civil as well? Regards, You Can't See Me!.
Basically, what he said. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 09:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Apol accepted. And Apol reciprocated. It is now a moot point. You have your way. But I have said what I have had to say POV on the matter. It's all there -- all of us, in black and white, one way or the other. But I still feel the precedint you are establising is dangerous. So dangerous, that I almost put the matter up for review. Curiously, it wasn't an AFD, but AFD review was the only thing I could think of. I'm sorry if you guys feel the way you do. You have interpreted policy and utilized it -- but in a manner that I consider shocking. The only reason I have not posted a request for AFD review is on account of the fact that you support the action. What there was to be said has been said. Nuff said. -- Jason Palpatine 13:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


Recent

You wrote: don't italic everything.

Wasn't quite sure how to properly go about differentiation without links. Ital looked like the way to go. Thanks for the help. -- Jason Palpatine 20:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Ben-spam and Image use

I saw your message only today, sorry I couldn't help. - TwoOars (T | C) 09:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Laser Tank edit

I see you edited the Space:1999 Laser Tank page I had made. Granted, it now looks a bit tidier, but in my mind the pics look too small, what about a small caption for them. If you don't know the subject some people might assume they are all the same vehicle at different angles. Douglasnicol 14:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Ichigo Kurosaki

I noticed that you edit the BLEACH articles quite regularly, correct? I'm still bothered with Ichigo Kurosaki's article due to the fact that he himself is also categorized in a superspeed category ever since this minour dispute occurred. According to User:Tjstrf, Ichigo is notable for having super-speed as his personal ability (unlike the other Shinigami who retrieve such powers automatically) — it really comes to this: is the character notable enough to gain a super speed category for himself? Didn't he retrieve that power when he became a Shinigami or did he always have that when he was "normal"? I placed all of the superhuman categories in Category:Shinigami in Bleach, but I'm kind of up and down with this one. A third person's opinion would make a difference and hopefully solve the problem. Peace. ~I'm anonymous

Now I understand. If it was made a point several times in the series, then it should stay. What is a parent category? Is it Category:Fictional characters who can move at superhuman speeds? If so, Ichigo should be put there. ~I'm anonymous
I see, the parent is the anime/manga cat., and the grandparent cat. is the fictional character cat., correct? I'm sure I've read this before. ~I'm anonymous

Out of context

Regarding User:Kelly Martin, by his "out of context" statement, he appeared to mean that they were "episode" screenshots and obviously were out of context elsewhere. Seems the only thing out of context here was Martin himself. :) –Gunslinger47 00:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

On the topic of Naruto images, I see you've been using a small bit of my work.[3] Thanks. :D Note that 480p is not really a "reduction" of NTSC which is 480i. >_< Don't worry about it, however. I'll get to fixing that eventually. I'm gradually scaling all images to 288p since that's the largest resolution that I suggested on WP:NONFREE talk which no administrator complained about. –Gunslinger47 02:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Guess who's undoing the Ben 10 episode redirects.

Yep. You've got it. He isn't listening to me, he's reverting my reverts, and he appears to have given up trying to convince us at the relevant discussion. So, he's just reverting the redirects... Help, please. You Can't See Me! 07:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


rv, no reason to recreate

Et tu, Brute! -- Jason Palpatine 08:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

So, what made you turn like this? You were one of (if not THE) primary contributors to the articles. Why would you appove the scraping of your own work? -- Jason Palpatine 08:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Kataimiko

  • I have a report against her on WP:AN/3RR. Please add any further reverts she does. I have to go to bed. Thanks! JuJube 08:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Sixsix villain.jpg

The image Sixsix villain.jpg is better to the image Sixsix image.jpg, so it wanted to you to request your “permission” to leave reports it of Sixsix.

P.D: It always leaves of seguirmé when it published something, against me.

Movie 3

Movie 3 is on Dattebayo. We'll probably have to put it on watch and finish writing the article. –Gunslinger47 23:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Images in List of Ben 10 episodes

Hi, I don't want to argue or anything, but why did you delete all the images in that article? Dylan Damien 03:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to learn that myself. -- Jason Palpatine 08:04, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
And why aren't they supported? Dylan Damien 11:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Wildmutt image.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Wildmutt image.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

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what happened to all of the Naruto Images?

I was in the hospital for a couple of days and now 90% of the images are gone. Can you please tell me what's going on. I couldn't find the reason on the discussion page. I was hoping that you could help me out. Verde830 01:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Just reading that gave me a headache. did we put too much on there that it was deleted. we cited all of our sources. what made it a cpoyright vio? what are your thoughts on this? Verde830 01:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand about the episode list,but What about our jutsu pages? Verde830 01:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


Italic type

You have now twice opposed my use of italic type in articles. However, I am asking you to read the Italic type article here, the policy pages on Manual of Style and Manual of Style (text formatting). Though not actually policy, it list some of the proper use of Italic type. I belive my use of it was not inappropriate. Without the Italic type, none of the names and such stand out -- it has no character. Yes, Italics are used for emphasis, but sparingly. I didn't consider what I was doing excessive. The only time I ever italic an entire block of sentences is when I am posting a quote (you've seen me do that). I will, of course be familiarizing my self with the to policy pages over the weekend. -- Jason Palpatine 06:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

That was fast. Thanks. If what you say is the problem with my style, what is I stop utilyzing the " marks? Is that what you're suggesting. You're advice is appreciated. This goes to show what the remark in my signature is all about. -- Jason Palpatine 06:45, 5 May 2007 (UTC) This User wishes (but too often fails) understanding of Wikipedia's Systematized Logistical Projection of its Balanced Policy Contingency. (speak your mind | contributions)

My userpage

I think my user page is a little too big and I want to shorten it by making those templates with the "show" and "hide" buttons but I have no clue how to do that? Can you give me template info or a page explaining it (the template itself would be nice though considering I'm no good with directions)? Sam ov the blue sand 21:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Oh and I left a well deserved barnstar for you on your page. Sam ov the blue sand 21:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why not.

As the rules are clearly in my favor here, I'm going to keep the categories in the redirects until there is a concrete reason not to. And from your talk page it also seems like many other users have complained about changes you've made to Ben 10-related articles. --Piemanmoo 08:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

What that line means is that only the relevant categories go on the main page, not unrelated ones. "Fictional characters with exta arms" would not fit well on the omnitrix mainpage, but it does on the Fourarms one. I started the redirects because I was sick of looking at categories like "Fictional characters would can move at superhuman speeds" and seeing "Omnitrix" listed under there. The omnitrix itself doesnt have that power, XLR8 does. The whole point of the no categories on redirects rule is to prevent it from flooding a certain category with similar pages. Since each alien form has different characteristics and powers, there's absolutley nothing wrong with what I'm doing.

And as for Benmummy not being a mummy and such. Are you saying Stinkfly isn't an insect? And Ghostfreak isn't a ghost? Who are you to make that distinction? Obviously they're all aliens, but they have other classifications too. Benwolf is a werewolf on the fact that the whole episode of him is centered around him repeatedly stated it, and the whole purple lightning story arc showed that all three aliens were modeled after horror movie icons. The Benvicktor one is the only one of those that has been disputed, but since he is a Frankenstine monster some people have decided that it's close enough to undead. I for one don't care enough about that one, since there's no "Fictional frankenstine monsters" category.

If you'd stop and look at your talk page, you'd see that plenty of people are pissed at you for several revisions and changes you've made without consulting anyone. If you feel strongly about something, bring it up and the talk page first before blindly reverting everything to your own personal liking. Start a vote on whether or not people agree with you, and maybe you won't be looked at as a borderline vandal.--Piemanmoo 19:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sick of this edit war that you insist on fighting. The rules clearly allow this, but since you have such strong feelings on it I'll set up a vote on the talk page. We'll give it 5 days and see who wants the categories kept and who wants them gone. --Piemanmoo 21:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
If you feel that cannonbolt's not an armadillo, then take out the catagory for fictional armadillos and leave it at that. But there's little debate one wether or not Upgrade is a technopath or that Fourarms has superhuman strength. What I don't understand is why you have a problem with that. You're acting like you're doing a good thing by removing all uneccesary categories, but what you're really doing is removing each and every one. So don't use the "Oh well, benmummy's not an actual mummy, so I guess XLR8 doesn't move at superhuman speeds either" excuse, because it doesn't make a lick of sense.

Now judging from your talk page it doesnt look like you're the type of person to give a shit what anyone other than yoursef thinks, so I'm going to help you out by starting a poll where everyone can have their fair say. After 5 days if everyone agrees with you then I'll personaly take down all the categories. But if they agree with me, then most likely what will happen is you'll continue to be too stubborn and you'll keep taking them off until an admin comes in and tells you to stop. But hopefully that won't happen, okay? --Piemanmoo 22:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Although it is the right thing to do, you should probably stop reverting him. He is just as relentless as you are, so really the only thing that will come out of this is both of you being blocked for a bit. Nemu 23:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


Okay, I want you to explain something to me: If I'm on some page and I click on the category "Fictional characters with superhuman strength" and then I see Fourarms listed there, what's the problem? -Piemanmoo 23:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Now, see, this is very your argument starts to get shakey. First you say that there shouldn't be any categories on any redirect pages period. Then when I ask you why you point out individual categories and the problems you have with them by themselves, which is an entirely different subject. It doesn't take you to a different page. When you click on the fourarms link, it brings you right up to the fourarms bio on the omnitrix page. If you scroll up you see that it's a redirect. So what's the confusion? If you click on the "Redirected from" link at the top you'd see that there's no seperate page for Fourarms. What you're saying is someone's going to be all "Wow, look at all these ficitonal characters with superhuman stength! Hey look at this one called Fouramrs. *click* WHAT THE HELL THIS IS SOME PAGE CALLED OMNITRIX WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING

ON OH GOD MY BRAIN!!!!!" and they'd fall out of their chair and die of shock. Is that what you think will happen? People will realize that not every character on that page falls under that category, and it's obvious why the cat was on the redirect.

As for your second argument, not all aliens have superhuman strength. Just look at Grey Matter. Adding "Fictional characters with superhuman strenght" to the Omnitrix page itself would not be appropriate. Now, if every alien on there did then I'd agree with you, but that's just not the case. So, let's just assume for now that all those categories apply to all those aliens, and that Benmummy counts as a mummy, ect. After this is all sorted out, we can discuss those issues seperatley.

Now, if I'm looking at the category "Fictional technopaths" and see "Upgrade (Ben 10)" I fail to see how even you could see a problem with that. Explain to me how that makes Wikipedia unencylopedic in some way.--Piemanmoo 00:24, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


Okay, now this is exactly where your head completley goes up your ass. NOT ALL OF THE CATEGORIES APPLY TO EVERY ALIEN.
Look at this for a second. See how all of those cats at the bottom do not belong there? The Omnitrix is not a fictional fish. Ripjaws is. When someone is looking through the cat of Fictional fish they shouldn't see "omnitrix" they should see "Ripjaws". I can't believe you still dont get this. Do I have to spoon-feed it to you? --Piemanmoo 00:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I don't know how many times I'm going to have to explain this to you, so just take your time and read what I say for once. And once you finish, re-read it again so you completley understad it. The Widget Armadillo argument is invalid because of the fact that there are no redirects to it. If the mascot itself was popular enough to warrant it's own redirect page then the category of fictional armadillos would go on it. But since you even said yourself that no redirects exist to the main page from the mascot, your whole argument in invalid. QED.

Now stop hiding behind faulty excuses and answer this simple question: 'Do you think that the Omnitrix should be counted as a fictional blind character, or a ficitonal character that can move at superhuman speeds? Or should Wildmutt and XLR8 be categorized as such? And don't pull that "oh, well technicaly wilmutt's not blind because he's not lacking eyesight he jus doesnt have any". For the sake of argument, all those categories would apply to the character's main page if they were notable enough to have their own. So if we pretend that Grey Matter had his own, sperate page, would he deserve to have Fictional technical experts on it. --Piemanmoo 05:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

So when someone is looking through the category of Fictional lizards, you'd rather them see "Omnitrix" instead of "XLR8"? --Piemanmoo 05:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


But what I'm saying is that it's much more encyclopedic to have the characters themselves be named on the category page. If I'm looking to make a list of fictional technopaths for some, I dunno, school project or something, I'd want to know exactly what character it is. Putting the categories on the redirect pages doesn't harm anything. I'll say it again, putting the categories on the redirect pages doesn't harm anything. It doesn't make wikipedia any less organized, and if anything all it does it keep it clearer. But I really don't expect you to suddenly realize this, as you're obviously too stubborn to admit that I've already handed you a plate full of your ass (with all the trimmings) numerous times already. So let's just leave it alone for now an see what others on the Omnitrix talk page have to say about it. Unlike you, I'm actualy trying to make wikiepdia more organized. --Piemanmoo 05:53, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
What you need to realize is that when the categories dont fit the page, they're supposed to go on the redirects. I'm not going to say it anymore. Brody Mitchum is a fictional rapist and football player, not the list of heroes character page. Ma-Ti is an empath, not the list of planeteers page. Wildvine is a plant character, not the omnitrix. Boris is a fictional hacker, not the list of Goldeneye villans. Categories that dont fit on the page itself go on the redirects. Get that through your incredibely thick skull already. Categories that dont fit on the page itself go on the redirects. Dear God, how can anyone be this dense? Leave it alone already. --Piemanmoo 07:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


Whoever said anything about categorizng every single redirect? I'm just making categories more effective by adding relevant entries, redirects or articles. If you'll notice, all of the redirects I'm adding categories too have already had some on them long before me. So don't get the impression that I'm all alone in this endeavor, because that's you. --Piemanmoo 07:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


Wrong. It means that the category only applies to part of the article that you are redirecting to. --Piemanmoo 07:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
That's still not a good enough reason to decatagorize redirects. Unless eplicitley stated, the rules say there is nothing wrong with it. That's what the majority of wikipedians have decided, and judging from your stubborness you dont care what others want, only what you do. I'm going to continue to categorize redirects and so will other people. Until there is made a clear, unambigious rule against you can have fun reverting every change we make you you can get banned from breaking the 3 Revert Rule. --Piemanmoo 07:45, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
And seeing how you're not even bold enough to do the editing yourself, you use a script to undo every action I make on here. Real mature. --Piemanmoo 07:47, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Once again, you, to quote Maddox: "With the eloquence of a drunk eating his own puke, you stumbled through this fact completely oblivious." According to the rules, if a category fits a redirect then by all means add it. Just look at the hundred of redirects with categories on them, and you'll see that you're the one in the minority here.

And quite Frankly, I'm sick of arguing with you because it's obvious you're just a child who wants everything his own way. Unlike you, I've actualy taken into consideration how others feel on this subject, and have created a poll on it. I propose we let them do the talking for a while, because if I cant talk some sense into you then maybe they can. So STFU for once and listen to other people's thoughs on the omnitrix talk page. You can voice your opinion on there too, but try not to harrass everyone on there, which I bet you'll eventualy do.

Consider this debate put on hold for 5 days, starting now.--Piemanmoo 07:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

U r not very nice

Why did u erase my edits to Naruto?Tommyboy43 17:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank You

That person is new and it took and arm and a leg to get him to even go to the Village Pump. He is very frustrating and my post was there to show what the proper ettiquette is for actions and what he should be doing (as per the RFC statement). It was also there to defend my own character and to emphasize the need to get rid of personal interest (user:Lode Runner shows that he came in there with a bias) when coming to such a place and that you need to step back to get a response, not post three or four times for each post someone else makes. SanchiTachi 02:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)