User talk:The Namaste Guild

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[edit] AfD nomination of The Namaste Guild

I've nominated The Namaste Guild, an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that The Namaste Guild satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Namaste Guild and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of The Namaste Guild during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Sancho 22:03, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

What specifically is so objectionable? It is difficult to correct what is in error, when one does not understand the implication of impropriety, or its source. We are good people, doing something that is a benefit to humanity. Where is the harm in that? And why the insurrection of deletion for a topic that is less than 12 hours in age? There are a number of articles on this medium that I could site as objectionable... however their articles have as much right to exist as ours do. That being said, since we at The Namasté Guild love a challenge, we will hear your comments and meet the community's requests when they are peacefully (rather than adversarially) presented. The Namaste Guild 22:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


Please read the notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). There is nothing objectionable about the subject, but I feel that it doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, can't, and shouldn't have an article on every subject. The community has participated in long discussion over the criteria used to decide what does warrant an article and what doesn't warrant an article. I'm sorry if your introduction to this encyclopedia has felt adversarial, but the nomination for deletion is just the process that many article goes through. As for the deletion coming less than 12 hours in age, the deletion won't happen before discussion has lasted seven days, unless another administrator believes the article meets one a criteria for speedy deletion (see WP:CSD). In order for this article to remain in the encyclopedia, somebody must present evidence, and include it in the article, that the subject meets the notability requirements described at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Again, you should also read WP:COI. Sancho 23:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


We do have sources that we can use, however they are from sources that originate "offline" from Uganda and Kenya... are those acceptable? Our understanding has been that they would not be... that our notable sources had to be strictly American or European. We reached this understanding from the assault we have endured thus far. Help us to understand otherwise. The Namaste Guild 23:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
First, I really urge you to try to not view this as an assualt. This is just the process that the community has decided to use when an article's inclusion is contested. Yes, offline sources from Uganda and Kenya are acceptable, if you can show that they meet the requirements at Wikipedia:Notability_(companies_and_corporations)#Primary_criterion and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. You should certainly give a source proving the existence of the foundation. Please cite all sources in the article following the guideline at Wikipedia:Citing sources. You also keep using the pronoun "we", and "us"... Is more than one person using this account? (Also, I'm leaving some pointers to help you learn how about the encyclopedia and its policies below... but you can continue this converation in this section.) Sancho 23:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Dear The Namaste Guild: Welcome to Wikipedia, a free and open-content encyclopedia. I hope you enjoy contributing. To help get you settled in, I thought you might find the following pages useful:

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If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user talk (discussion) page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. A third option is to ask a more experienced user such as an administrator.

One last bit of advice: please sign any discussion comment with four tildes (~~~~). The software will automatically convert this into your signature which can be altered in the "Preferences" tab at the top of the screen. I hope I have not overwhelmed you with information. If you need any help just let me know. Once again welcome to Wikipedia, and don't forget to tell us about yourself and be BOLD!   Sancho 23:40, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/The Namaste Guild for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. — Coren (talk) 20:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Elitism at its finest. When you have no other alternatives to our points of rebuttal, you resort to blatant crass. We gladly volunteer that we asked others to assist us. That is not against the rules (since there are none in accordance with Five Pillars of Wikipedia), and this is a tactic that is practiced everywhere; especially in politics. We could allege the same thing at your attention. We would also like to elaborate that we were offered help by Sancho; and the information that was provided was extremely helpful. With that information we enlisted support. However, to speculate that we told these people what to say is not only false, but also irrelevant when the facts are weighted... we were encouraged to do so. The Namaste Guild 20:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to participate in a deletion discussion

Take a look at some other deletion discussions, like this one or this one. Do you see how the participants all add very short comments, that say briefly and clearly in what way the article under discussion either meets or does not meet Wikipedia criteria, and each person usually only comments once unless he or she has new information to add? You are adding very long comments, and quite a few of them, which do not clearly and briefly explain how the article meets the criteria in question, WP:ORG, and those long, frequent comments make the discussion difficult to follow. Please, try to participate more helpfully, and only add information about how the article meets, or doesn't meet, the criteria- that's the only thing the discussion is there to determine. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppetry case

Hello. In reviewing this situation, you have used other accounts in a manner which is forbidden by policy. Specifically, the policy on meatpuppetry prohibits soliciting others specifically to sign up and vote-stack or participate in a deletion discussion. I've blocked the two accounts you enlisted indefinitely. Ordinarily, I would block your account for a period of 72 hours. However, as you're new and the policy in question is not intuitive, I'm not going to block your account. I think this would be useful as it will allow you to continue to participate in the deletion discussion. However, I have to tell you that soliciting others to participate in the discussion is forbidden, and any further problems along this line will lead to a block. MastCell Talk 01:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)