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[edit] RE: Peta Talk

While I agree that the statement is in violation of WP:Talk, another poster asked for references (often a way to shut down the accuser), and it does not fall under the "unacceptable" category. Because of that, and that I don't think talk should be removed ever (but rather repremanded and eventually archived), I re-added your removal. Talk pages have much more leeway than the article, and I think if even an obvious statement like "Peta is evil" still stimulates discussion. Bytebear (talk) 00:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I see your point, and I agree that if it gets out of hand, it should be stopped, but I also think when someone responds asking for more information, or when the conversation can move toward a more constructive discussion, it should stay. The fact is, many people do think Peta is evil, and that should be explored. Bytebear (talk) 00:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I guess I'm naive and think that the POV stuff is posted as serious. Thanks for dealing with it.Bob98133 (talk) 00:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re.

I was just getting it changed to Sephiroth lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2L84UBB (talk • contribs) 02:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, now you made me change my mind. Thanks, man! :D Asta Lavista, Baby! 02:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I like this name now. :) Asta Lavista, Baby! 02:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notable bio?

Noticed you used to be an ordained minister. I look at peoples user pages to try and figure out how to best fix mine up. Anyhow, when I read about the being an ex minister I thought I might get you to take a look at Arnold Murray. It's a bio of a televangelist but all of the references seem to rely on religious websites. Not exactly what I'd call reliable sources. The person working on this page has been putting an awful lot of work into it. I've tagged it with a notability needed template but was thinking if I should AfD it or not? Probably sources out there but I was unsuccessful using Google News. The article was AfD previous and result was delete. Think this is a vastly different version though. I did request on the articles talk page that reliable sources be found. Sting au Buzz Me... 04:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template

I'll make one for venom, but honestly, I enjoy Immortal more than venom. Also, please remember to sign your comments.Metal Head (talk) 06:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I'll make one for Venom now. I thought they would already have one though.Metal Head (talk) 13:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] immature comment

Hello I find your comment on the discussion "List of Roundabouts in Billings, Montana" unprofessional and immature!!!

--Wolfdog1 (talk) 09:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


The "Oh man, I really should get around to writing list of transsexual graphic artists living in the closet, list of men with dyed red beards, List of boats in Anchorage... zzz!" is uncalled for for a comment. It insults me, my town and my state. So if can't be professional, then just don't say anything at all!!!!

--Wolfdog1 (talk) 09:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] OK then...

are these silly too?!


--Wolfdog1 (talk) 11:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Here it is

v • d • e
Venom
Conrad Lant · Rage · Antony "Antton" Lant
Jeff "Mantas" Dunn · Anthony "Abaddon" Bray · James Clare · Steve "War Maniac" White · Alastair "Big Al" Barnes · Clive "Jesus Christ" Archer · Tony "Demolition Man" Dolan · Mike "Mykvs" Hickey
Studio albums & EP
Welcome To Hell (1981) · Black Metal (1982) · At War With Satan (1983) · Possessed (1985) · Calm Before The Storm (1987) · Prime Evil (1989) · Temples of Ice (1991) · The Waste Lands (1992) · Venom ' 96 (1996) · Cast In Stone (1997) · Resurrection (2000) · Metal Black (2006)
Compilations & live
Eine Kleine Nachtmusik (1986) · The Singles 1980-1986 (1986) · The Book of Armageddon (1992) · Skeletons In The Closet (1993)

Metal Head (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfDs

Thanks for the compliment. I guess after participating in so many AfDs you develop a style. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 23:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some stubs to look at for AfD

Since you are not busy... :-) Bearian (talk) 02:08, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fixed

I fixed it. I forgot that I had copied the immortal records.Metal Head (talk) 02:12, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template requests

I have added a place on my talk page for people who want to suggest templates for me to make. If you have any friends on wiki, tell them about it. It should keep my busy. (no crappy bands though)Metal Head (talk) 02:44, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] B.A.D

I think I gave enough information t discredit the sites given for B.A.D. Take a look on the deletion page.Metal Head (talk) 02:58, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

  • So much for that band being notable. :)Metal Head (talk) 04:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Work

Yeah, I only put a few on there. The school won't get deleted. I can already say that. The boat one won't get deleted either.Metal Head (talk) 03:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I know of the unclear notability section, but I'm lazy when it comes to looking for them. I wait for people to tell me about them. :) Metal Head (talk) 03:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] B.A.D AfD

Hi, I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind wandering over there and taking a second glance at the updated AfD. Pandacomics (talk) 05:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

The Golden Melody Awards aren't notable except for the fact they're issued by the Government Information Office. The Global Chinese Music Awards are given annually by a group of seven radio stations: 988 (Malaysia), Beijing Music Radio, Hit FM, Music FM Radio Guangdong, RTHK, Shanghai Radio 101.7 FM, and Y.E.S. 933 FM. [1]. RTHK is a major radio station in Hong Kong. YES 93.3 FM is the government-owned radio station in Singapore. Referring to Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias, "Similarly, systemic bias may cause articles of local interest to places (from where few Wikipedians come), to be nominated for deletion for lacking notability, because they are obscure to the majority of Northern Hemisphere Anglophone editors." Sound familiar? Pandacomics (talk) 06:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
You want charts? MTV Taiwan Week 52 2004 - #14 MTV Taiwan Week 1 2005 - #13 MTV Taiwan Week 2 2005 - #4 MTV Taiwan Week 3 2005 - #9 MTV Taiwan Week 4 2005 - #13 MTV Taiwan Week 5 2005 - #15 MTV Taiwan Week 6 2005 - #13 MTV Taiwan Week 7 2005 - (shared) #8 MTV Taiwan Week 8 2005 - (shared) #14 MTV Taiwan Week 9 2005 - (shared) #15 MTV Taiwan Week 10 - #14 MTV Taiwan Week 11 - #17 MTV Taiwan Week 12 - #17

If you want any more charts, I'd be more than happy to send you another spattering of links. Pandacomics (talk) 06:18, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Album charts: G-music album charts (used by Sina.com) - G-music Album Charts Week of January 28, 2005 - #18 Pandacomics (talk) 06:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


Oh, would you look at that, WP:MUSIC says that it counts as notable if the artist:

  • 2. Has had a charted hit on any national music chart.

Pandacomics (talk) 06:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

I've been nominated for adminship. I don't know if you can, but if you can drop a good word for me. It would be appreciated.Metal Head (talk) 07:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Rjd0060 2

Hello, can I respectfully request that you go back to the above RfA and read my comment to you. I don't really understand your neutral and I'm not sure you'll really looked at the candidates contributions at all. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfDs

OK I'm probably a bit dense, but I'm still somewhat new to the world of AfD so I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Do you mean when I'm nominating something to say [[article x]] should be deleted because of...? I'm happy to do what you're asking to make life easier, but I'm not sure I understand you perfectly. Travellingcari (talk) 03:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

gotcha now, I'll try my best to remember to do so as it seems a perfectly logical request. Travellingcari (talk) 04:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption

Lord knows I'm not necessarily the best person to do this sort of thing, and I want you to know that I haven't adopted anyone before, so I may not be the right person to contact, but I could at least try to help you out as requested. I may make mistakes myself, but I can at least contact those who know about some things more than myself. John Carter (talk) 22:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I would be honored to take you on as an adoptee, even though I personally dislike the word's apparent denigration. If you ever want any help in anything, please feel free to let me know. That's basically all the adoption is about anyway. I'll list you as adopted on the Adopt-a-User page. John Carter (talk) 15:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed El Esseily (2nd nomination)

I fixed it for you; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed El Esseily (2nd nomination (oops, forgot a parenthesis). Seeing as you participate in AfD a lot, I would recommend installing Twinkle; it makes listing AfDs much easier. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why you fucking with me Mandingo?

Stop reverting my edits. Are you a cell block bitch or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.100.90.73 (talk) 04:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

That was some seriously funny shit. Respect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.100.90.73 (talk) 04:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Block

I've blocked you for 12 hours, this comment is absolutely inappropriate. Mr.Z-man 04:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "What I was referring to when I said "15 year old" girls was "Prussian Blue" as he was a fan, I was recommending that he go and listen to them"

Decline reason: "I've checked your contribs to the IP's talk and they were all completely out of order, "Yeah if you're some trailer-trash loser with paedophilic proclivities, sure." - that isn't how we work here. — Ryan Postlethwaite 04:56, 31 January 2008 (UTC)"

Please make any further unblock requests by using the {{unblock}} template. However, abuse of the template may result in your talk page being protected.

I'm glad you're here to tell me "how we work here", but i've been here just as long. The initial comment wasn't a personal attack either, so I can't see what your problem is.. zzz -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 04:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
That was a personal attack, get over it. I'm new here, that's noob-biting as well as libel and personal attacks. Cordeyn (talk) 05:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
You Americans are so touchy! it's funny how the first thing you consider in any dispute is SUING!, now why don't you go back to your fifteen year old girls (so you don't get hungup on this again, once again I am referring to Prussian Blue) and leave me alone, I have better things to be doing. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 05:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
You Australians live in the outback with shrimp on the barbie though. Cordeyn (talk) 05:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm vegan, I do no such thing, yet you appear to embody the American Spirit, lucky your economy is going down the shits and in 50 years you'll be a backwater. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 05:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
In 50 years we will be mostly non-white beacuse the white man won't wake up. Cordeyn (talk) 05:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that will be a good thing, as a white, I welcome it -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 05:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
It's obvious you are another racially unconscious white person and resort to childish tactics. Besides, everyone wants you to shut up, so do so and serve the block sentence you deserve. Cordeyn (talk) 05:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
"Racially unconcious"? lol, i'm your favourite sort, the ex-racist, who is now antifa. You'll find the only difference between you and Michael Jordan is your lack of any defining talent at anything (especially basketball) and not your DNA or any other physiological differences. You racially aware people also tend to be awfully regressive, uneducated tards who will eventually move on and recant what they've said in the past when they get beyond (I'm guessing here, 15 years old?) -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 05:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Wait is this punishment or preventive? Ryan, I see no warning for this block, and it appears to be punishment, which is against policy. This block should be lifted. ←Gee♥Alice 05:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
We don't have to warn for serious attacks like this. Anyway, I solely declined the unblock, I didn't block. Ryan Postlethwaite 05:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
This guy's gulity of libel, he deserves a legal punishment. Besides, he should be prevented from making any more of those stupid and unfunny attacks. Cordeyn (talk) 05:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Troll! lol, you're the one saying Prussian Blue "pwns" zzzz. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 05:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
This block is entirely unjustified. As usual, User:Mr.Z-man is abusing his admin privs.

[edit] Re: WTH?

LOL! I didn't read it all, but thought it was really funny just because of its length. :) ←Gee♥Alice 05:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't even funny, no need to appease The Librarian anyway, he's a troll true living legend, he really is the greatest thing since sliced toast!.Cordeyn (talk) 05:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Troll! lol, you're the one saying Prussian Blue "pwns" zzzz. and err. get off your highhorse joob. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 05:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Librarian, I think it was just wonderful. Sorry you got blocked on my account. For some admins, it's the only way they can get their willies up.

[edit] Al-Aqsa Mosque

Hi, i see you added a 'fact' to this article. i don't understand why since the fact the AL-Aksa intifada is named after the Alaksa mosque is self-evident. However i added a reference to globalsecurity confirming this. Feel free to message me if you have any remarks User:kfeto —Preceding comment was added at 23:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Amélie Louise Rives

Some of the text in the Amélie Louise Rives article was hidden because of a formatting error. I have fixed the error and added some references, including a book abour Rives and her husband which was reviewed in the Washington Post. Could you please take another look at the article? --Eastmain (talk) 02:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] new/old afd

Go here and vote on this one. I don't want it to reach a no consensus. Thanks.Undeath (talk) 05:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Super Bowl

Saw your question on my talk page. Well the game is still at halftime - no one has won yet. It's 7-3 patriots. - Milk's Favorite Cookie 01:25, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Pats Win! Oops! Force of habit. Giants win 17-14. HPJoker Leave me a message 03:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New AfD's

I listed them. Go ahead and give your comments on them if you wish.Undeath (talk) 05:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks dude, voted =) -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 05:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

I cannot make a template for Graveland and for Deathspell Omega. For one, Deathspell Omega does not list their band members. The site doesn't even list them. Graveland has to many red links for now. But, if someone were to improve it......Undeath (talk) 06:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

  • I was able to create this one though. WatainUndeath (talk) 06:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Templates

The colour is a standard based on the infobox colours, and this is an encyclopedia, not a fansite, so I think picking colour schemes based on grimness isn't really what we should be aiming for. — Balthazar (T|C) 23:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes and while were at it we should make the navboxes for all black metal bands black, or better yet the info boxes aswell, if we're going to do it we should at least be consistent with it. — Balthazar (T|C) 00:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, lol, or a dark red to match black metal genre page. — Balthazar (T|C) 00:28, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nightwish, HIM, and Epica are not Gothic Metal

Do not add them in there. Nightwish has never played Gothic Metal. They are Symphonic metal and Power metal or just Symphonic Power Metal. It has been agreed that they are not Gothic metal same thing with Epica and HIM. Do not edit them in there again please. --Turemetalfan (talk) 00:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


No you don't have the right to Edit it has all ready been said and talked about and agreed upoan that Nightwish is not Gothic Metal. If you really want some proof here you go http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39

HIM has never played Gothic Metal ever. You can go and list them as Goth Rock. But it's not Gothic Metal.

Epica is Symphonic metal. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:07, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nightwish has never played Gothic Metal

and occasionally playing a variation dose not cut it. Either they have played it full time or they have not played it at all. Occasionally does not cut. If we go by occasionally it become POV and ever metal band in the world could then be add scene almost ever metal band in the world has occasionally played a Gothic Metal song. Why don't I just start adding Metallica, Kamelot, Iced Earth, Arch Enemy, Children of Bodom, etc, etc. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wow you are given proof and you don't even want to read it

Why won't you read the Proof I just posted about Nightwish? I will post it again for you http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39 http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39 http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39

Heck even on last FM they are listed as symphonic metal or power metal http://www.last.fm/music/Nightwish And here's one more http://www.discogs.com/artist/Nightwish

Nightwish has never played Gothic Metal ever. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


Yes you do have to be a full Gothic metal band. You have not given proof I have. And on top of that After Forever has played on two CD's full Gothic Metal. Epica has only ever played Symphonic metal starting with TPA, then going into CtO it was a Symphonic metal/Rock. There new CD TDC has Symphonic metal with more Prog, Death, and Black metal elements and no Gothic Metal at all. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

So you are not going to find any proof to back up anything you say. That's nice you do know that falls under POV don't you? Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#POV_forks Either come up with some proof with what you say or you will be reported for POV. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


kerrang is not a ref it's a mag Your still just adding in POV. And then you go and say I can't ust metal-archives but you can. I'm sorry but you are doing nothing but adding POV and are making up your own rules as you go. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Non of the above bands are Gothic Metal except Tristania.

       * After Forever was a Symphonic Metal band before adding Progressive Metal in their latest albums.
       * Epica is a Symphonic Metal band.
       * The Gathering is already listed.
       * Graveworm has no connection to Gothic Metal, being part of the Symphonic Black Metal scene.
       * HIM is an Alternative Rock band, with no connection to Gothic Metal.
       * Lacuna Coil is already listed.
       * Leaves' Eyes is already listed.
       * Liv Kristine is a vocalist, not a band.
       * Midnattsol should be added.
       * Moonspell is a Gothic-Doom band, and is already listed.
       * Nightwish is a Symphonic Power Metal band, nothing to do with Gothic Metal.
       * Sirenia is already listed.
       * Seasons End are not Gothic Metal, and as such are not listed.
       * Switchblade Symphony have no connection to any metal, least of all Gothic Metal.
       * The Sins Of Thy Beloved is already listed.
       * The 69 Eyes is a Glam Rock band with no connection to Gothic Metal.
       * Theater of Tragedy is already listed.
       * Within Temptation is Symphonic Metal with no connection to Gothic Metal apart from being influenced by the scene.
       * Xandria are not Gothic Metal, and so are not listed.

   Your IPod is a bunch of random bands you like, most of which have nothing to do with Gothic Metal. Non of these bands will be added to the list because they are not Gothic Metal. Please read the article and understand what Gothic Metal is before trying to claim unrelated bands as being part of the genre. Ley Shade 13:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

This was gone over again and again and it was reached to that Epica, and Ngihtwish are not Gothic Metal. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] When ever one agrees upon something that means it can not be add back in

Unless it is agree uopn by ever one. You keep editing and chaging the rules as you go. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] talk page consensus means ever thing

That's how it works is ever one will come to a consensus on it. You are just going on and on with edits and you give a mag as a a refs. The consensus was made. If you want a new consensus then let's start a new talk page for it. That's how it works. Why on earth do you refuse to even do that. --Turemetalfan (talk) 02:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


I dont' care what Kerrang list them as. They list bands all over the map. And you told me I can't use metal-archives as a reference but it's ok for you to. Dude you don't your make up your own rules as you guy just to pick fights with people. Let's start a discussion about it and coming up with a consensus with other people other wise your just being rude. --Turemetalfan (talk) 02:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a short time in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule at List of gothic metal bands. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

David Ruben Talk 02:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge templates

The date syntax is: {{Merge|any other arguments|date=February 2008}}, but if you leave the date off it will be added by a WP:BOT. Rich Farmbrough, 22:56 12 February 2008 (GMT).

Sorry:Napa City-County Library Rich Farmbrough, 00:00 13 February 2008 (GMT).

[edit] About the block

I saw that you were blocked because of 3RR. If you get into a situation like that again, with a stubborn new editor, just ask me for some assistance. I'll gladly help. That way you won't get blocked. Undeath (talk) 23:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Or me. Alternately, just notify an admin, any admin, of your concerns, and they can probably deal with the situation, up to and including maybe, if necessary, protecting the page in question. John Carter (talk) 01:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Thanks but no thanks. I just had one a couple weeks ago and it failed; it's way too soon for me to go for #6 yet. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 01:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)