These Kids

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“These Kids”
“These Kids” cover
Single by Joel Turner and the Modern Day Poets
from the album Joel Turner and the Modern Day Poets
Released September 27, 2004
Format CD single
Recorded 2004
Genre Hip-hop
Length 3:58
Label Dream Dealers
Writer(s) Joel Turner
Tim Turner
Producer Joel Turner
Steve Scanlon
Certification 2x platinum (ARIA)
Joel Turner and the Modern Day Poets singles chronology
"These Kids"
(2004)
"Knock U Out"
(2005)

"These Kids" is the first single from Joel Turner and the Modern Day Poets' self-titled debut album Joel Turner and the Modern Day Poets.

The song was written in December 2001 with the music composed by Turner and the lyrics written by his older brother Tim (aka "DubLT"). "These Kids" achieved huge success in Australia, reaching #1 on the national charts, remaining in the top 5 for 13 weeks, and achieving close to triple platinum sales. The track was nominated for Breakthrough Artist (Single) at the 2005 ARIA Awards, Most Performed Urban Work at the 2006 APRA Awards, and honoured with an ARIA No. 1 Chart Award in November 2005. Furthermore, it placed eighth in the 2004 ARIA End of Year Singles Chart[1] while still in the top 5.

"These Kids" couples a haunting melody with Turner’s vocal percussion, transforming into a heavier rock sound towards the end of the track. Much of the song’s popularity is thought to be due to the reality of its subject matter. It aims to draw attention to the plight of street kids ("Nobody knows the suffering they go through / And you wouldn’t believe ‘em if they told you"), offering a message of hope to young people going through hard times while also criticizing the justice system ("Instead of listening to the kids with the problems, they just tick them off more / Until the kid’s in prison or he’s dead before he’s 24"). Other issues covered in the song include crime, drugs and depression, with further references to the suicide of DubLT’s friend and the 2001 murder of a 14-year-old Brisbane boy stabbed to death by a family friend who had promised to help him buy marijuana.

DubLT is quoted as saying, "I wrote These Kids after one of my mates committed suicide, so it means a lot to me that it connected with so many people"[2] ... "I never wrote that song thinking it would be recorded or that Joel would get famous. But there is a reason I wrote that song and there’s a reason why Joel got famous. It was so I could bring out that song and someone could see the light."[3] In more recent times, the track has also been dedicated to Joel Turner’s troubled childhood neighbour and friend.

Turner travelled to Cairns in far north Queensland at the age of 15 to record the track with producer David Lynch for M.E.L. Productions. Once there, he laid down the vocals, beat and guitars while DubLT recorded his rap verse on a $20 microphone back in Brisbane. Turner has said that he originally tried using a real beat for the song, but subsequently chose to replace it with beatboxing.

When Australian Idol judge Mark Holden heard the recording some time later, he decided to release a remixed version as Turner’s first single, which featured the addition of strings and an alternative rap from DubLT. Although the song was edited to four minutes for radio, the full version can be found on the CD single and album, featuring a longer intro, additional choruses and extended electric guitar work. The original M.E.L. mix is also present on the CD single. In addition, a remixed version of the track appears on Turner's second album Out of the Box, featuring a new verse by rapper Pos of De La Soul.

The video for the song, shot by director Amiel Courtin-Wilson, was filmed in Melbourne although Turner and his group had originally wanted to shoot it in their hometown of Brisbane. The clip shows footage of Turner performing the track in a home studio, which is intertwined with scenes of a teenage couple sleeping outside a train station and begging on the street to passers-by. At one point, the couple is seen holding up a sign that reads "HOMELESS & HUNGRY…PLEASE HELP". Courtin-Wilson has said that many of the people walking past (none of whom were actors) thought that the young pair were genuinely in need, and numerous donations of money had to be turned away.

"These Kids" was released on September 27, 2004 and took nine weeks to reach its peak #1 position, which occurred ironically after the song had begun to slide down the charts. Its U-turn is thought to have been helped by Turner’s appearance at the 2004 Australian Idol Grand Final, as well as the song’s use in promoting Network Ten television show Summerland.

Contents

[edit] Charts

Chart (2004) Peak
position
Australian ARIA Singles Chart[4] 1

[edit] Track listing

1. "These Kids" (Radio Edit)
Writers: Joel Turner, Tim Turner
Producers: Joel Turner, Steve Scanlon

2. "These Kids" (Scanmix)
Writers: Joel Turner, Tim Turner
Producers: Joel Turner, Steve Scanlon

3. "These Kids" (M.E.L. Mix)
Writers: Joel Turner, Tim Turner
Producers: David Lynch, Mick Evans

4. "These Kids" (Instrumental)

5. "JT Freestyle" (Beatbox track)

6. "Beethoven Beats" (Beatbox track)

7. "Bass Guitar" (Beatbox track)

[edit] References

Preceded by
"What You Waiting For?" by Gwen Stefani
ARIA (Australia) number one single
November 28, 2004
Succeeded by
"Listen with Your Heart" by Casey Donovan

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