Talk:Theta Chi

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[edit] Chapter link table

The chapter link table is done in html format. It should be redone. Tables done on wiki are completely different from html and can be edited simply. The html format just adds to the confusion for those who want to later edit it. --† Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind 20:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

The chapter link table, in fact, should be removed entirely. It dwarfs the article and adds almost nothing to it; furthermore, the links are all accessible through thetachi.org. —Cryptic (talk) 13:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Good point. Or, it could be added as a link to another page. BME 00:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I think when people look at the fraternity articles on Wiki, they are more interested in the history and acomplishments as well as the notable people of the organization. I never found it helpful when people keep adding chapter links to fraternity and sorority articles when as Cryptic pointed out, they can be easily accessed through the main website. People are more interested in content than just mere lists. Just my two cents. --† Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind 01:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Distinguished Alumni listings

Since more and more alumni were being added in random order, I organized them into categories. What do you guys think? BME 00:49, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

In the last few weeks, many "alumni" have been added to the page. Some of these, such as Bob Woodruff, are not confirmed! Several entries, Bob Woodruff, DJ Skribble, etc. cannot be verified in the Theta Chi alumni database. Please cite your sources or these names will be removed. BME 19:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I have heard from Theta Chi IHQ that Bob Woodruff is, indeed, an alumnus so his information can stay on the page.BME 22:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I moved Distinguished Alumni list to its own page. It was getting huge, so I thought it merited its own listing.Andyparkerson 17:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creed

When a quotation is broken into several paragraphs, open quotation marks go at the beginning of each paragraph, but a close quotation mark goes only after the last paragraph. — Walloon 02:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motto

Helping Hand vs. Assisting Hand edits. Can we stop changing this every other week? Seriously this has been changed at least 3-4 times in the last month alone. Initiated members know what term is taught in the ritual. Perhaps one way to resolve this is to list it as "Helping Hand/Assisting Hand" in the article. BME 08:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I tend to agree, for what its worth. If we can't agree, as it appears, we might as well clear up the debate and list both. Quiller talk

The fraternity's motto is in Greek, thus neither "The helping hand" or "The assisting hand" are the "official" mottos. But both are accurate translations of the Greek phrase. I don't understand the petty editing wars between the two translations. — Walloon 16:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I had added the following text, "motto: θηρόποσα Χείρ" with a footnote of "The Greek motto of Theta Chi is θηρόποσα Χείρ, which has been variously translated as 'An Assisting Hand' or 'A Helping Hand.'" I like it, but people keep changing it to either "An Assisting Hand" or "A Helping Hand." I had been reverting the changes, but I'm going to leave it as "An Assisting Hand." Either one is right, so I suppose it doesn't matter which one is up there. I might add the footnote to "An Assisting Hand," but leave the translation there. Andyparkerson 10:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
The "Motto Editing Wars" (assisting hand vs. helping hand) is getting very ridiculous!!! I would like to propose locking out editing of this Theta Chi website from unregistered Wikipedia users. BME 19:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's too bad. Yes, it seems to change about once a month, going from "helping" to "assisting" hand back back again. It's silly, but I don't think it's bad enough to semi-protect the page. It hardly rises to the level of an edit-war. It's more like people new to the page, who feel that one way or the other is preferred, and never check to read the discussion page. The hope is that more will be gained by people adding to the site than is detracted from by people reverting the motto. Semi-protection is the wrong move here. -- Andyparkerson 04:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alcohol-free housing

I have removed this paragraph from the article:

It must also be noted that alcohol-free housing (AFH) has been a topic of debate. Anti-AFH constituents argue that instead of joining fraternities, many potential new members are deciding against Greek Life, and live off-campus with friends, where such stringent policies don't apply. In addition, many believe that mandated prohibitions such as AFH do not in fact teach the undergraduate members any sort of personal responsibility. AFH proponents, however, point to higher academic performance, improved cleanliness of chapter houses and recruitment of higher quality men. In fairness, it must also be pointed out that there are instances of high academic performance, clean chapter houses and quality members in non-AFH fraternities.

With the accretion of pro- and anti-AFH arguments, this is rapidly becoming an online debate about AFH. Such a debate does not belong in the Theta Chi article. — Walloon 21:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SDSU Drug Bust

I think that it's better to move the information about this drug bust from the main Theta Chi page to a Wikinews page. I have done so, and have linked to it under the section Theta Chi Today. Andyparkerson (talk) 21:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I don't want to suggest big brother style censorship but additions or links to the article(s) on this unfortunate story should not be added to this page. OX is already taking a beating on CNN, Yahoo, MSNBC, you-name-it. Why here too? Can you please remove that link? BME (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
That goes completely against what Wikipedia stands for. You want it removed because it shows your Theta Xi in an unfavorable light? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.151.70 (talk) 23:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
There should be some mention of the scandal, but it should be as little as possible. The scandal involves one chapter of an international fraternity, and not a systemic problem in the whole fraternity. I think the link to the wikinews page is sufficient, and necessary. In time, when the news gets old and no longer relevant, we can remove the wikinews link. Any other opinions? Andyparkerson (talk) 23:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. I agree that it is OK to link the wikinews page for a while then remove it when the firestorm burns out. Love and respect. BME (talk) 01:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Another vote that the SDSU drug bust relates to certain individuals at a certain chapter. It tells us nothing in general about Theta Chi Fraternity, which is what this article should be about — the fraternity as a whole. — Walloon (talk) 09:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The vandalism to this page is getting out-of-control (look at the Creed right now). I have already used up my "3 edits per day" quota. BME (talk) 20:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

This story should be covered in the wikipedia article. To say that it does not belong here because it is in the wikinews article goes against precednet. Saying that it should not be covered because it is "unfortunate" is totalyy POV. 137.53.241.2 (talk) 19:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

So what's the difference between this and what's on the Pi Kappa Psi page or even the Pi Kappa Alpha page? There are no links to some wiki news there. There seems to be a HUGE double standard here by members who don't want to see this organization in a negative light. Considering this got both national AND international headlines, it deserves inclusion. Those who keep deleting this are absolutely not within right to keep on doing so.