Talk:Therese Neumann

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Therese Neumann said publicly in 1930's Germany that Adolf Hitler was possessed by the Devil.

For some unexplained reason neither the Nazi Party nor Adolf Hitler made any attempt at silencing her remarks. Considering her fame in Germany at the time, this remains an outstanding fact. It is a given, that Adolf Hitler had supreme power in Germany and could have easily sent Therese Neumann to a concentration camp. But he did not. Why... is a mystery?

[edit] Problems

Other than a minor, weakly sourced, bit in the Inedia section, this article cites one source, a book that is "the personal memories of a life-time family friend who was also an official witness in the process leading to the Cause for Therese Neumann's beatification". Throughout, claims are stated as simple facts. I don't know if this can be saved. Mdbrownmsw 15:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

What a strange comment. Why worry about 'saving' an excuse for an article that is deeply biased hagiography? If there were some small pieces of rational thought embedded, one might worry about rescuing those. There isn't. This has no place in an encyclopedia; it is an insult to Diderot's legacy. --kscally 13:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

So fix it. Hell, I'd fix it myself if I knew more about her. What I do know is that she was investigated and found to be a fraud. Everything about her behavior indicates that she was a Munchausen Syndrome drama queen. --Bluejay Young 21:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Whether she was a fraud or not is not the issue here, with respect. She is notable because she was famous in her lifetime and beyond, and there's been a great deal written about her, including her alleged fraudulence. That makes her a suitable subject for any credible encyclopedia. -- JackofOz 13:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

My previous comment does not refer to the question of Therese Neumann having or not having an encyclopedia entry, but to the uselessness of the current entry (at time of writing) to a reader seeking reasonably full coverage of the topic. Lack of objectivity (by omission or otherwise) destroys any value in the article. What credibility is left to an encyclopedia composed of such pieces? --kscally 22:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Mdbrownmsw's assertion that the article is weakly sourced. However, we don't have a basis for saying the article lacks NPOV. The factual assertions in the article are supported by the citations, and so unless we find citations to the contrary, we can't really dispute their facutal accuracy just because they're dubious. A more correct tag is:

This article or section relies largely or entirely upon a single source.
Please help improve this article by introducing appropriate citations of additional sources.

. I'll add it to the article so we can maybe find some other sources with can further substantiate or repute some of the facts asserted in the article. Dgf32 (talk) 16:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Date of birth

I made a private note some years ago that she was born on Good Friday (8th April that year), but her parents considered it unlucky to be born on Good Friday so they often claimed she was born on 9th April, and 9th April appears in various parts of the literature as her birthdate. I don't have a cite for this, though. If anyone can come up with one, we should add a footnote explaining why 9th April is wrong. -- JackofOz 13:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

We're currently showing her date as 9th April, but we also say she was born on Good Friday. However, Good Friday in 1898 was on 8th April, not 9th April. It's either: