Talk:Therapeutic horseback riding

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I wonder if the author of this beautifully written article would like to include a section on the teaching aspect of theraputic riding? One might include special training of the horse, special saddles and tack, backriding, two-person leading, etc. I taught theraputic riding for a while, and would be glad to include a little section on teaching, unless that would be better submitted to the Wikihow? Soltera 19:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed links to center per WP:NOT#DIR and WP:EL

I've removed the links from the page that are to centers. The main thing is from WP:EL under links to be avoided: Links mainly intended to promote a website. Links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services. Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article. I think this clearly shows that the links are inappropriate. --notJackhorkheimer (talk / contribs) 16:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay. But I do not think these links are here to promote web sites. I think they are here to give people who need such services a head start on how to find such services. As to primarily existing to promote services, shame shame they are promoting helping handicapped and many other people as well, right? Further, one link even shows a movie that would be perfect for a featured article. I say the links should be returned. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 11:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, I think that the one link with the informative movie should maybe be returned, provided it isn't too promotional of the site where it's hosted. Selling services doesn't have anything to do with the net effect of the services. However, I didn't notice that some of the sites seem to support themselves through donations instead of charging people who use their services, so you might be right that this doesn't apply to all links. But still, Wikipedia is not a directory, even if that directory has the best intentions. I wouldn't think a link to a directory, such as dmoz, would be objectionable, but I don't think long lists like that make for a good article. --notJackhorkheimer (talk / contribs) 18:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay. I'm with you. I'm no wiki expert. How do we go about providing useful links to people who may be in distress and needing guidance while at the same time adhering to Wiki policies? I'm no dmoz expert either. Perhaps you could set such a thing up? Just a suggestion--I am not volunteering you. I think people may be coming to Wikipedia for information/help and it should be provided somehow, particularly in such a situation as that raised in the wiki page itself. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 01:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I've just put a link to the relevant directory at dmoz up. It looks to have a far better directory than we could ever have already, anyways. Sorry to be hard-line, I just think it's better to keep links like this at a minimum to keep the possibility of people using Wikipedia for promotional purposes to a minimum, which is why the policy is the way it is right now. Not sure how you can go about editing links there, but I think you have to apply to edit there. --notJackhorkheimer (talk / contribs) 03:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] CAM designation

Therapeutic riding is not a CAM- it is a recreational or sport activity. Hippotherapy would be the appropriate topic to list under CAMs as it is a medical treatment using the movement of the horse. In an effort to clear up the confusion NARHA, AHA and EFMHA have been making terminology changes to make this more clear to participants, supporters and the general public. Can the CAM designation be changed to the correct topic? 65.41.92.189 (talk) 17:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)KarmaAnais

While horseback riding is recreational, Therapeutic horseback riding positively is not. The word therapeutic certainly does not indicate a sport activity. While more than one WikiProject could claim this article, as a non-drug and a non-surgical treatment option, therapeutic horseback riding certainly would fall under the CAM umbrella. -- John Gohde (talk) 16:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
The term therapeutic riding has historical roots in the use of the horse

a part of a rehabilitative model. However, current terminology of therapeutic horseback riding means horseback riding for persons with disabilities. It does not mean "therapeutic" in the dictionary sense. I would be happy to send you the Powerpoint that was presented at the 2007 NARHA National Conference for therapeutic riding that discusses this exact problem. Again, the correct designation would be hippotherapy- the medical treatment with the help of the horse. Therapeutic horseback riding is not medical treatment, it is a recreational, leisure, sport or educational activity provided by a NARHA registerd riding instrucor. Wikipedia please help NARHA, EFMHA and AHA clear up the confusion. 69.34.62.89 (talk) 17:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)KarmaAnais

Folks, rather than a food fight, may I recommend that people use footnotes and citations to explain relevant facts on each side? You can "teach the controversy' easily. Just write in a neutral tone, explain both viewpoints, ("on one hand,...but on the other hand,...") and when possible use citations to the most respected source on each side. See WP:CITE. Good luck. Montanabw(talk) 19:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)