Talk:Theo Jörgensmann

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The content of this page are clearly self-serving and not written from a neutral point of view.

I agree.... I have deleted the pageful of press quotes from it as a step in the right direction, but it's still dicey. --ND 22:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I think, the step was big enough. MGL. 23:50, 12 Nov. 2006 (CET)


This description sounds like an advertisement, not an attempt to describe the music objectively. "Jörgensmann has a wide range of musical expression. By abstracting and transferring, he combines elements of jazz, classical music, new music and different ethnic styles, without being tied to any of them. Having deeply internalized all his experience as an artist, he doesn´t need to quote; he can content himself with merely hinting. Any attempt at a distinction between composition and improvisation would be irrelevant in this music of fluid transition. The art of emotionally abandoning oneself to the process of playing and yet at the same time consciously structuring it, is one of his musical accomplishments. The musical communication captivates us with its changes between the abstract and the concrete. This leads to some surprising - conscious or subconscious - combinations, examples of what Theo Jörgensmann called a "new musical structuring of time."" - Gregor G.

I have deleted the controversial part of the Jörgensmann article.---Aktiver Arbeiter 20:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that some description of TJ's playing is worth including but would agree that the passage in question is more like a press release. Perhaps someone who's actually heard his music (I haven't) can oblige with a substitute paragraph, or drastically edit the previously included paragraph. --ND 21:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I can't write about his music, too. But I try to write a few simple sentences about his theory. Gruß---Aktiver Arbeiter 09:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I have translated some basic sentences from his book---Aktiver Arbeiter 05:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conflict Theo Jörgensmann Quartet

I have also proposed Theo Jörgensmann Quartet for deletion, as being redundant. --ND 23:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
O.K: I agree with your argumentation, but take a look to your own Paul Plimley article version. The first part is clearly self-serving and not written from a neutral point of view. 20:18, 13. Nov. 2006 (CET) MGL:
Please stick to the topic. If you don't like the first paragraph of the Plimley article (I can't see why, but that's what checks & balances are for) then fine, go edit it or leave comments on its page. But this has nothing to do with Jörgensmann or the entirely redundant Quartet article. --ND 22:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
PS I just realized that it's probably not clear – the first comment on this page (using the word "self-serving") is not mine, it's someone's unsigned comment. -- Though I agree(d) with its use, since the article clearly contained (& still contains some) material that derived from TJ's press pack or other promotional materials (e.g. lengthy press clippings &c). Whereas the Plimley article I did is short & written independently of the subject. --ND 22:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The next time, please be carefully. If you like music you should´nt do anything against musicians. They are the losers in this conflict. 9:52, 14. Nov. 2006 (CET) MGL.