Talk:The Worm Ouroboros
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[edit] Leaving notes here for later
Wrote this on the Ouroboros page before realizing there was a page for the novel; these are notes that I'd incorporate into the text but have to cut-paste them somewhere for later stitching in: The story is set on a mythical Mercury, akin to Edgar Rice Burroughs fantasy-fictional Barsoom (Mars), but more pre-Raphaelite than Tolkienish or pre-Raphaelite in quality and style of prose; reminiscent of the Gormenghast Trilogy, also. Central to the story is the summoning of The Worm Ouroboros by Gorice XII, King of the Witches, thereby bringing about his own demise and the succession of Gorice XIII, who is one of the main characters of the novel.
And just wondering who, if anyone, owns the film rights . . . . or is it tangled up in litigation like the works of Burroughs and Leiber?Skookum1 06:25, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- The text of the novel is posted on the Internet (click on the first external link) as if it was in the public domain. If there is somewhere to go and buy the film rights please let me know. It might be a very good investment.Steve Dufour 18:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC) p.s. You have one too many Gorices, you meant to say Gorice XI, who was killed in a wrestling contest, and Gorice XII, the last of the line who summoned the W.O. one too many times.
I'm not completely certain about the expiration of Eddison's copyright. He died on August 18th 1945, and this may have meant the 50 years, which used to be the limit, had expired before the law (in Britain anyway) was changed to 70 years. I've never found an exact statement of the law here so this may be a total red herring Agingjb 10:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- Since the Public Domain issue was brought up here: The only thing this page sites as a reason for this novel being in the P.D. for the US is the digital etc. act, and the fact that it was published before 1923. Well, it was never published in the US before 1923 and there's nothing in the Digital act that makes this book P.D. in the US. I hope this error is corrected soon.
[edit] Comparison with LOTR
Must so much of the article deal with the comparison to The Lord of the Rings? I was going to go to the article on Eddison himself and change the first sentence to, "E.R. Eddison was not J.R.R. Tolkien." That seems to be what he is most famous for. (I did stop myself just in time.)Steve Dufour 04:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC), a fan of both.
- Yeah, I moved all that to its own section. It really doesn't belong in the introduction. rewinn 21:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] sentence cut out
I cut out:
- "It should be pointed out that the recurrence is not exact; the situation is not exactly that of the opening, the restored king of Witchland is now Gorice XII, and minor Demons and their allies killed in the war are not revived; but we are in no doubt that a sequel, had it been written, would have continued Eddison's vision in the same style."
It's really just someone's opinion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.137.100.21 (talk) 00:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC).
I won't quarrel with the removal of my comment. However, the part of my sentence before the second semicolon is an accurate summary of the situation at the end of the book - it is not a exact recurrence. The clause after that semicolon is indeed just my opinion, and was correctly removed Agingjb 07:33, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 09:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Comparison to US politics
Do you think it might be a good idea to mention how the characters in the book can be related to figures in US politics? For instance Gorice XI and XII to Bush 41 and 43? Or Brandoch Daha to Barack Obama? Maybe Juss to Al Gore? Corund and Prezmyra to Bill and Hillary? And Gro to George Stephanopilous? ;-) Steve Dufour (talk) 04:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)