Talk:The Wiz (film)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	The Wiz (film) has been listed as one of the Arts good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
	An entry from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on January 6, 2007.
December 5, 2007 Good article nominee Listed

This article is within the scope of multiple WikiProjects. Click [show] for further details

Film Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Films. This project is a central gathering of editors working to build comprehensive and detailed articles for film topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. GA This article has been rated as GA-Class on the quality scale. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the priority scale. Editing Guidelines Please remember these guidelines when editing a film article: If a non-film article already exists with the name of the film that you are trying to create an article for, disambiguate and use (film) in the title: Film Title (film) For more information see: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) When writing an article about a particular film, the general format should be a concise lead section, followed by a plot summary of no more than 900 words, production details, a cast list, a reception section, and references. Create an Infobox that tells all pertinent information about the film. Additional Information: This article is within the scope of the Michael Jackson WikiProject, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Michael Jackson and associated groups or individuals. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. GA This article has been rated as GA-Class on the Project's quality scale. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the Project's importance scale. After rating the article, please provide a short summary on the article's ratings summary page to explain your ratings and/or identify the strengths and weaknesses. Oz Portal This article is part of WikiProject Oz, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to the Oz and Wicked series. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project.

Archives

January 2007 –

Contents 1 Unsourced, from the article, moved here 1.1 Trivia 2 Free-use images removed? 3 GA review (Pass) 4 1999 DVD release

[edit] Unsourced, from the article, moved here

Until we find sources for each of these unsourced statements, I have removed all this from the article and put it here as a record. Cirt 00:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Trivia

• In the Scrubs episode "My Overkill", J.D. talks about The Wiz.
• The animated TV series Family Guy once parodied the "Everybody Rejoice/A Brand New Day" sequence in the episode Barely Legal.
• Simon Cowell has made his distaste for The Wiz known on American Idol, especially when contestants have performed songs from the soundtrack. There has been an exception though — when Melinda Doolittle performed "Home," Simon stated that she made "a boring song into a great vocal."
• Luther Vandross, Patti Austin, Robin Givens, Roberta Flack, and Gwen Guthrie can all be seen as choir members in the "Everybody Rejoice" segment.

---

Of course, if any sources can be provided to back this stuff up with some context, it could be added back into the article at some point. Cirt (talk) 16:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Free-use images removed?

• I think the (3) free-use images in the article are tasteful, and relevant. Can someone please explain to me why they were removed without discussion? Cirt) 05:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC).

• • That's just it, however: the pictures are not relevant to this article. They have nothing to do specifically with The Wiz, and weren't taken anywhere near when the film was made. They're just arbitrary images of three people related with the film. Just because they're free use doesn't mean they have to be used.

Examine the featured and good articles on other films, and note what kinds and types of pictures they use. Images of cast/crew are referenced from screenshots, on the set pictures, or official studio publicity related with the film.

With a properly written fair use rationale, a screenshot from or two the film itself would make far more sense and be relevant to the article, since relevant free-use images would be hard, if not impossible, to find.

Also, an article on a musical film doesn't usually include a link to the musical theatre portal, since it's not a work of musical theatre (based upon, yes, but films based on books aren't linked to the literature/books/etc. portal either). --FuriousFreddy (talk) 01:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

• Okay, I'll remove the portal link. However, I think on Wikipedia it is always preferred to use free-use images over fair use rationale images. I sense the project is moving away from fair-use rationale images in general in some respect. Cirt (talk) 04:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC).

I agree the images of Ross, Jones, and Jackson are irrelevant to this article, as none of them relate directly to their participation in the film, and therefore should be removed. Once they are, I'm ready to deem the article worthy of "good article" status. MovieMadness (talk) 14:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Y Done - I removed the three free-use images. I can see when the majority is in the other direction, and I won't push this further. Thanks for commenting. Cirt (talk) 15:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] GA review (Pass)

• 1. It is reasonably well written.
• 2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, with a good number of references and citations to reliable sources.
• 3. It is broad in its coverage, particulary in the production history and critical reception sections.
• 4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
• 5. It is stable.
• 6. It is illustrated by an appropriate image.
• Overall: Pass MovieMadness (talk) 15:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Comment

I moved this GA review down from the top of the talk page, where it was placed below the Good Article template bar. Cirt (talk) 15:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC).

• And also, thank you for doing the review and for pointing out these six points. Cirt (talk) 16:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] 1999 DVD release

Universal Studios Home Entertainment issued The Wiz on DVD in non-anamorphic widescreen in 1999, updating this release for the film's thirtieth anniversary in 2008 with anamorphic widescreen and a new 5.1 sound mix.

This can't simply be sourced by looking at the DVD - it needs a secondary source, or else it is a violation of WP:OR, not to mention it's unsourced as it stands. Cirt (talk) 05:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

A blog post and IMBD? Not the best of cites for this info... Cirt (talk) 05:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

They're just fine. DVD info on IMDb is not edited by users, but directly by the IMDb staff. And the blog contains an article from a professional website on the movie. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 05:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey now, no need to use language like that. In fact, your entire second sentence in this last comment of yours is really not needed at all, and not conducive to a civil discussion. Would appreciate it if you redacted it. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 05:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Sentence removed, but fix the article yourself if you're going to undermine my contributions. I don't have the patience to deal with people critiquing where I get references for release dates of a DVD from. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 06:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I did. Cirt (talk) 10:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)