Talk:The Wasp Factory

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the underlying theme throughout the wasp factory is that of the connection between Frank and his father. The idea of secrecy and mistrust is one that Banks approaches the audience with.

This is far too much like a book review and not enough like an encyclopedia article. Criticisms of the Thatcher regime belong elsewhere. 82.32.83.19 07:48, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to have a go at rewriting it. Guinnog 00:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

• Also, what is the dispute here? Guinnog 00:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I've taken out the POV stuff about it being a political novel. It just isn't. Guinnog 16:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

This needs more work on the plot and what exactly happens. Skinnyweed 17:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree. I think there is enough here already summarising the story. Feel free to make any additions you think are warranted though. Guinnog 18:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Well the ending is missed out, which is one of the main plot points and essential to the whole book. What justification is there for not including the revelation of frank as a girl and of the build up to that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.30.174 (talk) 22:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding adding a link to a blog post - this is an electronic version of an article I wrote several years ago about the influence of The Tin Drum on The Wasp Factory. I think the article is relevant and interesting. [1] I didn't realise I was breaking protocols, sorry! --Severian582 (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tarantino

"In a post-Tarantino world, critics find it hard now to see what the fuss was about." What do the films of Quentin Tarantino have to do with a this novel? A better context would be, I don't know, Bret Easton Ellis's 1991 novel "American Psycho," or Irvine Welsh's works, or what's-his-head, the "Fight Club" guy, Chuck P. Willerror 21:49, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

One of the sources I used when I researched my rewrite of the article made the comparison, and I thought it a good one. I think it means that graphical violence with a satirical or highly stylised style has become far more acceptable than it was in the 1980s. Of course YMMV. Guinnog 21:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I think you should have approached it more as a Gothic text, exploring gothic themes such as transgression and excess. Also, the concerns in the novel of masculinity and its destructive nature characterised by the themes of 'the noble soildier' or the patriarchal father. 195.93.21.1 14:53, 10 May 2006 (UTC)THWAR195.93.21.1 14:53, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Fine. You can be bold and just edit the article, if you can show evidence that the novel has been reviewed in this way by a reputable source. Guinnog 15:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)