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[edit] Was Mercy really a prostitute?

At first I thought she was a prostitute when she is introduced in the movie, but Fox calls her a whore and she snaps back "I'm not a whore!". The movie has been pretty direct in telling the viewers certain things about the characters, and I thought this was perhaps one of those moments to 'set the record straight'. Of course she was a little slutty around Swan all the time, though, but I figured woman were just that way around him...


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The link to Brian Tyler in the cast list is wrong. It links to someone else with the same name. I'm not really sure how to change the link because there is no page on him

Can someone confirm if the Warriors really fought the Furies in Riverside Park? I know the scene was FILMED there, but I always thought it was set in Central Park. I just can't think of any reason why anyone trying to get from Van Cortland Park to Coney Island would end up in Riverside Park...if they were forced off the IRT, why would they suddenly start heading west, unless they were planning on swimming across the river to New Jersey?

I believe they were chased from the IRT station at 96th and Broadway. They probably thought Riverside Park would be a good place to lose the Baseball Furies. You wouldn't go to Central Park from there; it's further, and it's uphill. Note: I changed the first paragraph, which had said that the film is set in New York City, except for a final scene in Coney Island. Coney Island is in New York City, so I found this misleading.

This page could do with some work.

Yeah. "Too many cooks" comes to mind. I might take a stab at a cleanup if the article can go a couple days without more stuff thrown into the mix. -R. fiend 17:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. I cleaned it up a couple of months ago, but it's become a mess again since then. I don't really want to rework it right now, but the two things that caught my eye are:

  1. Do the gangs that don't appear in the film really need to be listed here? Most of them are only here because of their presence in the video game.
  2. The paragraph about being pulled from theaters really needs to be sourced. I've heard different versions of what happened, and this seems no more or less plausible than any other right now. It might also be either expanded or merged with the main text rather than given a seperate one-paragraph section.

--Misterwindupbird 18:20, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I removed most of the gangs mentioned; the ones which said nothing about them. I left the rest, unsure if the information was from the oft-neglected book (one should remember that it was a book before a it was a movie). From their descriptions, I think many did appear in the film, getting on the subway and whatnot, but were not mentioned by name. I wouldn't be too sad to see them go too (I'm referring more to the second list than the first). As for the pulled from theatres bit, I guess it would be best to find out who added it an ask for a source. I know nothing about it, I'll admit. I started this article after watching the movie a while back and was surprised to find it wasn't here already. -R. fiend 18:43, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I did a bit of revising and rewriting in the introduction and plotline, with some cleaning up in the "Pulled from theaters" section (which I know needs to be verified and sourced, but I cleaned it up anyway) as well as the "Gangs" section. At first I just intended to correct some spelling and grammar errors, but I didn't like the way the article flowed when I read it back, so I started the rewrites. Of course, there's much more that could be elaborated on, as well as some additions like the filming of, reception, etc. but I don't have the time for that now, and I'm sure someone else can work on that. What's there now should provide a good base. Paulcleveland 06:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

I added the link to the Union Square pictures taken November 2005 and have now been replaced with other advertising. I found it interesting since Union Square was a major station in the movie.jbutera 05:51, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I find the comparison to "Anabasis" interesting. I know nothing about that story, but I always thought The Warriors came from the Odyssey, and I swear that in the book one character read a comic-book version of it. At any rate, a comparison to that story as well as Anabasis might be useful. paustin

I deleted a bunch from the Spinoffs section. Do we really need to know which program was used to edit an amatuer bike messenger movie that was influenced by The Warriors? One paragraph is plenty. py 13:09 11 February 2006




I wanted you to know that you are an fucking moron. If you knew anything about this movie, you twit, you would know that some of the gangs in the movie are real gangs and were put in the movie so that they would not destroy the set and that they even hired a gang to protect them. In the TV version, the undeleted version, the graffiti tag THE WARRIORS on the hideout was over a real gang tag so they crew had to pay $500 an hour to have the tag there.


JimmyNikaidoh123

I have heard the Immortal Homocides controlled Coney Island at the time of the filming of the movie, and were very upset when they tagged "Warriors" over top of their mark; therefore, they demanded to get a scene in the movie. Supposely the Immortal Homocides are in the Conclave Bronx scene.141.153.133.238 05:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Is Luther the leader of the Rogues? I remember a scene where he's talking to someone on the phone, and I always assumed it was the leader of the Rogues. Can someone confirm this? mixmastermind

There are no "Immortal Homicides"; it was the "Crazy Homicides" that were there, and yes, they did get angry at the filmmakers for tagging over their stuff. 207.210.23.159 22:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I added a "Filming locations" section. The film takes quite a few interesting liberties with NYC/subway geography and I wanted to note some of them here. I'll add more to it when I get a chance. Also, this article is quite long. Maybe the list of characters and gangs can be placed on their own page, Characters in The Warriors, or something? --SHODAN 04:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too much talk about the game?

Too many details of the game are put into this article, making it hard to read. Most of the games details were added to flesh out the story and do not actually show "insight" into the film. I think some of the mentions should be removed.


[edit] Far Too Much About The Game

Agreed. This entry is supposed to be a reference to the film version. The repeated references to the derivitave video game make this article confusing to read, not least because they are not relevant to the film - suggest that such comments should be removed and included in the separate video game entry.


[edit] Solution?

I would think that the discussion of the gangs that feature prominently in the game (Turnbull ACs, Harlem Boppers, etc) would be discussed in the pages about the game. As this pertains to the movie, though the Boppers were there, they had no say in the outcome of the Warriors. So I think that either there should be a different section to move the gangs to or move the gang discussion sections to the video game section.


[edit] Plethora of poor content and spelling errors

I don't mean to be too much of a negativist, but I swear that parts of this article look like they've been written by someone who suffered genuine brain damage at one point in his or her life. Could anyone so inclined do a big check on this article for spelling and grammar errors, and also improve the overall quality of the content a little while at it? I've always loved this movie, and its article deserves way better than this current state of affairs. 80.201.106.158 08:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to Improve

It really is a tough call about separating the movie and the game. For starters, Rockstar Games got all the rights to produce additional content and even got as many of the original voice actors that they could. Ask virtually any game critic and they can tell you that The Warriors game is pretty much the greatest movie-to-game franchise produced to date. I'm sure whoever originally created the article had only the movie in mind, but there's so much media coming out about The Warriors that the original subject is probably changing to reflect it.

If you want to reduce your work load, it would probably be better NOT to separate it into two articles, but rather to create a single entity about The Warriors universe. This idea is compounded by the possibility of The Warriors remake scheduled for 2008, which may or may not come to fruition. But in doing so, you leave the possibility of expansion, and reduce not only your current work load, but any additional articles for the Wiki. --MrDopple 19:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Almost forgot. If there has to be a single entity which holds this article, the book came long before the movie to begin with (14 years before the movie release mind you) , and should probably be the main article, NOT the movie. [1] Oh... R.I.P. Marcelino Sanchez aka "Rembrandt", who died today 20 years ago. [2]

[edit] characters from anabasis

will somebody please add that thing which has the characters from this film with the characters from the work that this was based on?

[edit] Seperate character articles

Just an idea, to make articles on all of the main 9 Warriors, Cleon, Ajax, Snow, Rembrandt, Vermin, Cowboy, Cochise, Swan and Fox 220.239.198.106

nope. Pages would get deleted by WP:FICT. People would also argue that the articles were just a re-statement of the plot and the characters only appeared in one movie (no sequel). Cbrown1023 21:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slang?

Do we really need the section for slang in this article? There are a few, such as "going faggot," "colors," and "cripple" that seem either self-evident or already widely known. Amp 16:32, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


The entire article is shit, actually. It should probably be reverted to where it was sometime last year, before too many cooks added everything they could possibly think of to the article, making it an utter mess of drivel. One of the few encyclopedic and interesting things, the comparison between the Warriors and Anabasis, was removed. -R. fiend 18:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References in popular culture

This section is way too long. It's about two full screens on my computer. The article doesn't need to list every single time a wrestler, rapper, or movie quotes a line from the film. I think this section should be replaced with a prose description of the film's popularity in other media and note the lines and images that are most often referenced. -Captain Crawdad 22:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, even if I am guilty of just adding to it. What does concern me is the amount of quotes of people saying "Come out to play" is actually a reference to the film. A good deal of these must be coincidental, surely? Lists of direct samples of the film are at least factual (and may save some people a restless night of sleep trying to remember where they heard a line previously - granted you can easily win an argument against the merits of this in an encyclopaedia) --Travisbasevi 00:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Well it was a good movie just make a separate article to solve the problem. Johnnycash316 (talk · contribs)

I have dumped this section and the References to movies here as they are sourced and Wikipedia discourages list. Maybe some of this stuff can be integrated into the article or, as Johnnycash316 suggests, create an article exclusively for it. --J.D. (talk) 21:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movies

At the conclusion of the film, The Warriors confront Luther and the Rogues at the beachfront in a shot-for-shot homage to Akira Kurosawa's samurai film, Yojimbo. The hero in both films disarms the pistol-armed villain with a thrown knife, after which the villain clutches an impaled wrist.

[edit] Music

  • In the beginning of Tupac Shakur's song "California Love", Monster says, "Can You Dig It!" as Cyrus said in the film.
  • At the end of the Spunge song "Room for Abuse", a sound clip is heard of Ajax's threat to the leader of the Baseball Furies, "I'm gonna shove that bat up your ass and turn you into a Popsicle."
  • The band Biohazard created a song titled "Wrong Side Of The Tracks". At the end of the song, Cyrus's famous line, "Can you dig it?", plus the cheering is included.
  • The 1985 Twisted Sister album Come Out and Play features lead singer Dee Snider chanting a version of the film's famous line, "Twisted Sister...come out and play...Twisted Sister...come out and play-yee!"
  • In the Wu-Tang Clan song "Shame On A Nigga" from their first album Enter the Wu-Tang, rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard uses a Warriors line in a battle rap, Crews be actin like they gangs anyway / Be like, "Warriors! Come out and play-ay!"
  • Diddy's popular phrase "Bad Boys, come out and play-ay" is taken from this movie. He uses this line in the beginning of the song "Flava in Ya Ear Remix" by Craig Mack.
  • In the single "Gangbangin 101", Snoop Dogg makes a reference to Cyrus, saying that he shot him and doesn't care because he isn't from the West Coast.
  • The Diplomats' "Crunk Muzik" music video features an elderly black man making a statement to a group of gangs, similar to Cyrus. The video also features the line "Dipset, come out and play! Dipset, come out and play!" followed by the clanking of two alcohol bottles. A bathroom scene is included, which is a reference to the scene with The Punks gang in the film. The gang member is wearing roller blades, similar to the gang member in the movie.
  • Fat Joe Gangbang Interlude from his Jealous Ones Envy LP is Cyrus's speech from the Playground.
  • In the Redman song "Noorotic" from the album Dare Iz A Darkside he says "I'm a warrior, to the heart, but I didn't kill Cyrus."
  • The British band Pop Will Eat Itself feature samples of the film on several tracks including "Can U Dig it?" which featured Lynne Thigpen's radio DJ line "Let's get down to it, boppers" as well as the conclave cheer "Riffs! Yeah!" and Cyrus's "Can you dig it?"
  • Another British band Renegade Soundwave sample the DJ's lines on their 1989 original album "Soundclash" and compilation album "RSW 1987-1995", including the outro line "Good news, boppers. The big alert has been called off..."
  • The music video for D12's single "Fight Music" has several references from the movie, involving all members of D12 running through New York City from other gangs. Ice T plays Cyrus, radio DJ Angie Martinez plays the DJ.
  • Former Psychopathic Records recording artist, the Anybody Killa, a.k.a. ABK, used samples from the movie at the end of many of his songs on his debut CD, "Hatchet Warrior," and even has a cover of the end theme, In The City, as the last track on the album.
  • Non Phixion's 2005 album The Green starts with a long sample of Cyrus' speech, starting at "The problem in the past..." and ending with his triple repetition of "Can you dig it?!"
  • In 2002 electronica musicians Jam X & DeLeon released "Can U Dig It?" featuring sound samples from the movie.
  • Before Mudvayne performs their song "Dig" in concert, Chad Gray will ask, "Can you dig it?!" Mudvayne also sells a shirt featuring the band dressed in the Baseball Furies' outfit.
  • Garage punk band, The Baseball Furies, take their band name from the Baseball Furies gang. They also dressed up like the gang during their early live shows.[1]
  • The 1980's Japanese Oi! band The Baseball Furies also took their name from the movie.
  • The name of greaser punk band The Turbo A.C.'s is a reference to the Turnbull AC's gang.
  • Lloyd Banks's song "Warriors" uses a sample of the line, "Warriors, come out to pla-ay" from the movie.
  • The British Techno group, Messiah, also uses several samples from The Warriors in their album, 21st Century Jesus.
  • The Danish hardcore band Barcode uses a sample of the line "That's 20,000 hardcore members ready to fight. Can you dig it?" in their intro to their song "End the War".
  • Punk band American Distress uses an audio sample of Luther's famous exchange with the candy shop girl ("Hey, what about the money you owe?" "FOR WHAT?!") at the beginning of their song "Fraudulent Times".
  • Rap group N.W.A. cast Lynne Thigpen to reprise her role of the radio DJ for their song "100 Miles and Runnin". In the song, she plays "Nowhere to Run" as she did in the movie.
  • Rap group Delinquent Habits on their first and self titled LP uses a cover image with gang members dressed in similar clothing to the Baseball Furies and others.
  • New Zealand hardcore act Brick Vs. Face pay tribute to the film in their track Warriors.
  • Argentinian hardcore band Nueva Etica samples Luther's infamous "Warriors, come out to play" on the intro to their CD "Inquebrantable".
  • The Offspring song "Come Out and Play (Keep 'Em Separated)" has many references to gangs, and the title is also a reference to the movie.
  • Insane Clown Posse's song "Beverly Kills" starts out with "Jugglers, come out to play-ay!".
  • Hip Hop group Hieroglyphics' song "Fantasy Island" contains the lyrics, "Warriors, come out to play".
  • Rapper Aesop Rock's song "labor" references the movie with the line "i've got a hecklin' this gon' be the one the children bicker over, it's that Warriors Vs. Baseball Furies element".
  • UK Hip Hop artist Jehst uses samples from the film in the song "Alcoholic Author" on his album "Return of The Drifter".
  • UK Punk Rock Band 'The Chaps' express their accolade of the Warriors through references spanning their entire discography, including the partial sampling of the original Warriors theatrical trailer in the opening of their 2004 release 'Don't Hate Us 'Cos You Ain't Us'.

[edit] Other

  • On the Television Show Transformers Cybertron Crumplezone shouts 'Overide, Come out and pla-ay' while she is hiding behind a block.
  • In the horror/comedy Murder Party (2007), the character named Bill is dressed as a Baseball Fury.
  • The Center Patch [Club Colors] of The Warriors is a face-forward Hells Angels Motorcycle Club Death's Head. This image is strictly protected by copyright laws. That is, however, the image's origin.[citation needed] The lettering that makes up The Warriors top rocker is a font often called Bone Font and is also utilized by HAMC.
  • In the show Lion Maru G, a gang known as The Swankees are clearly based on The Baseball Furies.
  • WWE wrestler Booker T's first entrance music included several of Cyrus's lines, the most notable being, "Can you dig it?"
  • In the video game Serious Sam II, Sam shouts "Kleers, come out to play!!" while waiting on Planet Kleer.
  • The video games City of Heroes and City of Villains feature a street gang named the Warriors. Like their counterparts, this gang is frequently attacked by other gangs. The game also feature multiple nods to the film in its scripted missions.
  • Shaquille O'Neal has named The Warriors as his favorite movie and frequently references it during interviews, particularly Cyrus's line, "Can you dig it?"
  • In the green fever episode of Sealab 2021 Sparks is seen riding, and banging a pipe shouting "Sufferers come out to pla-ay"
  • In children's television show Rugrats, Angelica yells out "Aliums, come out and play-ay" while searching for Tommy and Chuckie, after believing Chuckie is an Alien and mispronouncing the word.
  • The Varsity Football team of St. David's School in Raliegh, NC, use the "Warriors, come out to pla-ay" and following song for their entrance to H.B Hector Memorial Stadium because their mascot is the "warrior"
  • In the Making the Band sketch on the second season of Chappelle's Show, Dave Chappelle, as P. Diddy, clinks 2 milk bottles together and chants "Breast milk, you made my daay-aay".
  • In one episode of the TV show Scrubs, Turk yells "Do you see, Carla? Do you see what you get when you mess with the Warrior?" after beating her in an arm wrestling match, in reference to the line spoken by Sully in the film.
  • In the movie Frailty the two siblings Adam and Fention Meiks argue about which movie they should go see. "The Warriors" Is the movie Fenton wants to see.
  • In the episode Meet Casey Jones from the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles tv series Casey bangs his bat on a trash can and says "Purple Dragons!Come out and play!".
  • In the HBO series Entourage in a scene where the boys are walking toward Ari Gold. Ari is standing with his assistant Lloyd.
"Ari: Would you look at this.

Lloyd: This is so exciting, it is like when the Warriors got back together at the end of the movie. Ari: Don’t tell me you wack off to the Warriors. (Turning to the boys): There they are. A movie star and a TV star, all in one family. Who would have thunk it?

[edit] cochise

should it be added how he was supposedto be killed —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.164.225.201 (talk) 22:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

Vermin was to be killed and it should be put under some sort of trivia section. Johnnycash316 (talk · contribs)

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