Talk:The Warehouse Group

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1 User Mosmof Edits
2 Misc.
3 Domain Squatting
4 Whuddy Fuddy, Big Red Shed and other names
5 Bias
6 Criticism
7 Size
8 WH Extra
9 Table
10 {{fact}} tags, etc
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Twh today.jpg
12 Fair use rationale for Image:Twh firststore.jpg

[edit] User Mosmof Edits

Someone who has never been to New Zealand keeps removing factual stuff about The Warehouse that any New Zealander would know. He removed (and I put back) the bit about long lines at the returns counter on Boxing Day because it is true, does he want me to take a photo next Boxing Day to prove it. Also The Warehouse is called Whuddy Fuddy by many New Zealanders I believe this is the Maori name for Ware and House, but the American wouldn't know because he has never been to New Zealand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.169.220.108 (talk • contribs)

Every store in New Zealand has a lot of faulty product returns on boxing day. It's not really worth mentioning —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.240.19 (talk) 07:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Misc.

I changed the "largest retailer" to "largest department store retailer" as a number of New Zealand retailers are larges (various Foodstuffs, Progressive, etc)

Added in part about Tui system being unreliable for stock numbers. Willuknight 02:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Domain Squatting

I notice that warehouse.co.nz leads to underwear.co.nz, and online store for lingerie. Additionally, the site is hosted by cybersex.co.nz, and all links feature that in the address. Is this worthy of mention ?Willuknight 02:17, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whuddy Fuddy, Big Red Shed and other names

These are the slang names people call The Warehouse here in NZ there was no need to remove this line as heaps of New Zealanders call it that and has even been called that in some publications and news stories. Whuddy Fuddy is the Maori name for Warehouse, another name I have heard is "Fuddy House" but thats another way of saying Whuddy Fuddy. 202.169.220.196 03:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Slight correction: it is a phonetic translation of the Maori name. Although this is the accepted spelling, the correct is "Ware Whare", I think. (The Wh sounds like F and the r sounds like a d.) But I cannot be certain, all I can accurately say is tena kotou and kiaora. :D THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bias

I note that some of this article appears to have a bias and/or lack of sources. Examples: most of the Criticisms section does not have any sources, and the last paragraph of the Australian operations section is opinionated. If there are neutral observer backups for these, then it would be good to see them. Stifle 18:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

Can people actually back up these claims like "whorehouse" and things like that under the criticism section? If you don't like the place don't add the comment just for that reason. Borgarde 05:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes anybody who lives in New Zealand knows that The Warehouse sell cheap junk, have a huge market share that has caused the closure of smaller family businesses and people do call The Warehouse names like "whorehouse". It is also true that many New Zealanders are happy to wear clothes that are only available at The Warehouse or buy cheap non-brand name appliances that have an exclusive brand name, The Warehouse has made New Zealand a budget nation. Will people stop removing these comments because anyone who lives in New Zealand knows they are true. Unknown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhowden (talk • contribs)

- cheap junk? You sound like you visit The Warehouse often.. perhaps if you discussed other retail outlets instead of dissing a successful one, perhaps it might make a difference. As for the bit about people being rude to friendly staff... how is that criticism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.226.163 (talk) 07:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Unknown sounds like they have a bias. I've lived in NZ for 22 years and never heard it called the whorehouse. While it is true that they stock some cheaply made products, this is offset by their refund policy. Besides, the information about their cheaply made products is already in the artical. Willuknight

02:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

People down here in Invercargill call it whorehouse sometimes just another name to call since Warehouse and whorehouse sound similar. And yes they sell lots of non brand name junk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.169.220.108 (talk • contribs)

I've been living in Invercargill for the past 4 years. Never heard it being called that. Willuknight 00:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size

The average sizes for Warehouse and Warehouse Stationery stores are far too high. Red sheds average closer to 50,000 square feet, and the blue sheds are usually smaller. The second Warehouse Extra is in Whangarei, and was a conversion of the existing store.203.109.174.4 23:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WH Extra

I know for a fact that Te Rapa is getting a warehouse extra (i had an interview at the warehous for a job and got told!) and the whang. store is now open so i'm editing.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.184.20.33 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Table

Hey... I reverted some vandalism, but kinda ruined the Key Employees table. If anyone knows how to fix it, it would be appreciated. As you can imagine, I don't have a clue :) THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR (((¶))) 23:05, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed the table for you. Adam McMaster 22:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Dude! That's totally awesome! Cheers, THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR (((¶))) 07:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {{fact}} tags, etc

I've added tags for parts where I thought needed citation, attribution or NPOV. This article can use a lot more attribution, but I marked the places that were in severe need of citation. Ytny (talk) 02:11, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you should get on a plane and come to New Zealand and visit a Warehouse store and talk to a few New Zealanders about their views on The Warehouse and their products. Then you will know what the writers from New Zealand are on about. The information on this page can most likely not be found on the web it comes from the knowledge of people who work at The Warehouse and people who shop at The Warehouse. I notice similar criticism on the WalMart page and in fact worse, however WalMart is a large US corporation so any American knows the good and bad of WalMart, I wouldn't edit that page and ask for citation in any part because I don't live in the USA, I have been to a WalMart store once but what I saw of it is not enough for me to rush out and change the Wikipedia article removing any good and bad criticism because I believe the US people when they say that. 202.169.207.211 07:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You seem to be forgetting that Wikipedia is based on verifiability, not truth, The Truth or "truth". "The information on this page can most likely not be found on the web it comes from the knowledge of people who work at The Warehouse and people who shop at The Warehouse." is a completely misguided approach here. If the information is not verifiable by a reliable, independent secondary source, then it should be thrown out.

The fact that I don't live in New Zealand is precisely why my opinion matters here. Wikipedia articles (or encyclopedia entries in general) are meant for people who, like me, are unfamiliar with a subject, and don't have the benefit of getting on a plane and coming to New Zealand and visiting a Warehouse store and talking to a few New Zealanders about their views on The Warehouse and their products. Your job as an editor isn't so much to tell the truth, but to collect published information about a subject and present it in a concise form.

If the WalMart article is "worse" as you say, then by all means, go and point it out and demand sources. It'll only make the article better. But in the meantime, it wouldn't hurt you to read up on WP:V, WP:NPOV, and WP:NOR. Ytny (talk) 10:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and lest anyone actually believes that the Wikipedia article on criticisms against Wal-Mart is somehow "worse", I present to you Criticism of Wal-Mart#References. It might be harsher, but it's well sourced, compared to the weasel words and original research that makes up for most of the criticism section here. Ytny (talk) 19:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The Warehouse could easily be considered as the Walmart of New Zealand, Walmart was even shown on the Campbell Live segment where they were showing how The Warehouse was causing the closure of local businesses, they then showed how similar things were happening in the US. It is true that The Warehouse do treat their staff better to a certain point compared to other NZ retailers but I have even heard of stories from staff that work there of putting broken returned items back on the shelf to be sold once again at the same price.

As for citation I would like to say "The Sky is Blue" and "The Grass is Green" and I don't think I need to find citation of that because this is something that everyone knows. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.169.207.211 (talk) 22:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

Forgetting for a moment how ridiculous it is to compare the unsourced information in the article to the sky being blue, in fact, if you were editing an article about the sky, you would need a citation for the statement "the sky is blue" (and it was more of a pink-ish color when I looked yesterday morning, in fact).

Getting back to the real world, I don't know that The Warehouse is the NZ equivalent of WalMart, and if you look up at this talk page, you'll notice that people from the same town as you don't know that it's nicknamed "Whorehouse", so let's knock off this "everybody knows" nonsense. Ytny (talk) 21:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Twh today.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Twh firststore.jpg

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