Talk:The Velvet Underground and Nico

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This article is now a GA article because it has sufficient information, proper references, neutral point of view and is logically designed.--Abebenjoe 05:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] <^>v!!This album is connected!!v<^>

[edit] Emerson Lawsuit

This could really use a section on the lawsuit involving the image on the back cover -googuse 02:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] original (?) limited edition (?) double album with black cover?

Someone i knew had a vinyl double album of vu & nico with a black cover. It seemed fairly old. The second album had a live recording on it, 'ocean' was one of the tracks on it. Can anyone give any info about this? 146.176.163.104 13:27, 10 January 2007

"Ocean" wasn't first written or recorded until around 1969, after The Velvet Underground and Nico was released. I'll take a guess and say what you're talking about is actually a bootleg.Pele Merengue 03:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rip of acetate demo

I don't know when exactly it leaked, but a rip of the acetate demo has indeed been floating around on the internet. I've listened to it and compared it to the released album/notes on the acetate demo and I'm fairly confident that it's a genuine rip (the songs that previous owner Warren Hill claim are different takes are different takes on the rip, etc.) Is this worth a mention in the article? Pele Merengue 03:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major additions begin made

Just as a heads up to anyone wondering, I've been updating/changing the page regularly with new information as I've been reading books on the band. I apologize in advance if the article's edit history looks like shit for a while. Pele Merengue 10:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Great work. A couple of things as I was going to GA review it but am time-limited and need to be AFK soon; as well it seems to be being edited recently alot (which is fine but have you finished the bulk of it now?). I think it'd pass but needs a lead which is 2-3 paragraphs long and a bit bigger than it is now - it should summarise salient points in article. Other than that, looks pretty good. If it is still around when I get time free in a couple of days I'll review it if someone doesn't beat me to it.cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 05:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I think it's mostly finished for the time being. Lately, I've just been tweaking things, other users have been correcting typos I've made and whatnot. I'll try and work on a more fleshed-out lead soon.Pele Merengue 07:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rationale of fair use...

Rationales of fair use need to be added to all the album covers before this article can be approved for GA status. -- Underneath-it-All 16:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Alright, done. Pele Merengue 18:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article nomination on hold

This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of May 23, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: yes
2. Factually accurate?: yes
3. Broad in coverage?: yes
4. Neutral point of view?: yes
5. Article stability? yes
6. Images?: yes

Reads well, and it is only on hold due to one sentence about record producer Tom Wilson's contribution to the mixing and editing of a song, and the band's response to it. It is not referenced, so a citation for that fact would allow this article to pass. Or delete the sentence, then it will pass.

Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. — Abebenjoe 01:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I removed the sentence. I don't remember ever reading that Wilson remixed the album, let alone the band's reaction to it.Pele Merengue 01:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Now rated as a Good Article

With your edit, I have rated the article as GA and will complete the steps that give it that designation.--Abebenjoe 05:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Much thanks. I'm glad the article is up to snuff now. Maybe I'll have the time to improve other Velvet Underground articles in the future.Pele Merengue 18:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the banana album

As far as I can make out the front cover for the UK issue (MGM records Ltd. London England) of the LP is the back cover with Emerson airbrushed out. The back cover is track listing and a selection (10 in total) of press cuttings. Am I correct in this and if so it should go under the alternative covers section. Does an image of this cover already exist out there somewhere --Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 15:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "ostrich guitar"

This is a relevant point with regard to the article on "ostrich guitar" as well, but regardless of what the liner notes to "Peel Slowly and See" indicate, my ears tell me that the only song on "Velvet Underground & Nico" which prominently features "ostrich guitar" is "Run Run Run". Perhaps the other two have Reed's unique tuning further down in the mix, but I find it strange that the song on which "ostrich guitar" is most clearly audible isn't even mentioned as such. I'm wondering if anyone else has come to the same conclusion, since I'm only one listener (albeit with pretty sharp ears); if so, is there a documented article to back up the presence of "ostrich guitar" on "Run Run Run"?

People sometimes forget that liner notes occasionally contain errors. That being said, I'm not exactly going to change the article on personal intuition alone, so if anybody knows of a reputable printed source that corroborates my observation, it would be most welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.155.209.26 (talk) 16:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)