Talk:The Twilight Zone (1959 TV series)

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Good article The Twilight Zone (1959 TV series) has been listed as one of the Arts good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
June 26, 2006 Good article nominee Listed
TV This article is part of WikiProject The Twilight Zone, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to The Twilight Zone on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

The page looks a lot better. I added a small section at the beginning, and the season-by-season breakdown is solid. I think it meets the Good Article criteria. But maybe, maybe not, we'll see how it goes. - Zone46 03:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Failed GA

None of the images have Fair Use Rationales, otherwise this is a good nomination. Add the rationales and re-apply (see WP:FAIR) Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 22:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I think I added the rationales correctly (I'm new to this image stuff), so I've renominated the page. - Zone46 15:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
The first Shatner picture does not look like a screenshot of that episode. It looks like a staged publicity photo on the set of the episode. Image should be tagged accordingly. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 20:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second GA nomination

On hold for: lead too short, fair use rationales are weak--see other FA/GA articles for examples, several unfootnoted quotes, and should have a notice at the top about the other Twilight Zone articles.Rlevse 22:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

How do I footnote the quotes? They are all quotes from the Twilight Zone Companion, which is referenced at the bottom of the page. - Zone46 21:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
GA awarded. Though I'm concerned with the breadth of the article. Could we see some more sections be added to this one so that critics and development be shown. Lincher 01:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I added a development section a month or two ago, so I'm not sure how else to expand it. As for critics, there are quotes from several critics included in the article (from The Twilight Zone Companion), both positive and negative. - Zone46 01:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename or Merge?

Hey, everyone, there is a second Wiki-article on The Twilight Zone (called The Twilight Zone). To me, it is signigicantly different from this article (it tells the Twilight Zone story more from a producer and writer point of view). Can we maybe RENAME this article (i.e. The Twilight Zone (Season by Season History)) or something like that? I don't think we should MERGE these two articles. I like them both as they are. User:ProfessorPaul19:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't rename or merge. The Twilight Zone is about the whole series in general. (See Star Wars) while this page is only about the original series. There is also a page on The New Twilight Zone. - Zone46 22:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Re-Review and In-line citations

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[edit] Improvements to individual episode articles

I've been reading various episode articles listed on List of The Twilight Zone episodes and I noticed some (minor) style errors common to most of them -

1. They have an unusual section at the bottom that is redundant because these articles are already accessed in the Infobox on the right. Back to: The Twilight Zone, Episode List, Season 1

This is sometimes listed under "Twilight Zone links", but is still not needed when the infobox has all the relevant links. This appears to date back to 2002, before the infobox was added.

2. The "External link" section is often placed in the middle of the article, but it should always be placed at the end (and called "External links", even if there is only 1 link)

3. Now a seperate subcategory exists for Category:The Twilight Zone episodes, the episode articles should be removed from the main Category:The Twilight Zone. This is the point of having a subcategory and will make Category:The Twilight Zone episodes much easier to use.

I'll start working through season 1. Magiclite 23:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

4. Another point: regarding the Themes section in many of the articles; most of these consist of mini reviews which are POV, or theories of what the underlying meaning/message/moral of each story is, which violates WP:NOR. Any type of analasys like this must cite a reliable source. The same goes for statements such as "this episode is similar to another episode called... etc". Magiclite 21:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Someday, in a perfect world, we'll have something like Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons/Style guide for the Twilight Zone episodes. Like many (most?) Wikipedia TV episode pages, they're all over the map today in terms of consistency between pages. It's going to be a monumental task to fix them, but it would be nice if someone who knows how could get the ball rolling. Travisl 21:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject The Twilight Zone. Thoughts? Travisl 04:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Videotaped episodes

I noticed that both this article and the episode list mentions that six episodes of season 2 were done on videotape. Does anyone which episodes and do the videotapes still exist? Davhorn 17:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

The "Episode Notes" section of Twenty Two (The Twilight Zone) states:
“ Even though the six shows were taped in a row, through November and into mid-December, their broadcast dates were out of order and varied widely, with this, the fifth one, shown on February 10, 1961 as episode 17. The first, "The Lateness of the Hour", was seen on December 2, 1960 as episode 8; the second, "Static" appeared on March 10, 1961 as episode 20; the third, "The Whole Truth" was broadcast on January 20, 1961 as episode 14; the fourth was the Christmas show, "The Night of the Meek", shown as the 11th episode on December 23, 1960; and the last one, "Long Distance Call", was transmitted on March 3, 1961 as episode 22. ”
Travisl 19:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Aha, so it was hidden away somewhere. :)
Any idea if the tapes still exist or if today's releases are from telecine copies? Thanks for the help. Davhorn 23:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Judging from the quality of these episodes currently in rotation on SciFi and on the new DVD releases, the videotapes do exist and were used as masters. The quality is noticeably different from that of the episodes in earlier syndication packages, which were barely distinguishable from film and were probably mastered from telecine copies of the original tapes. Sorry, I have no sources on this, but the difference in quality is noticeable. 12.22.250.4 (talk) 22:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)