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Temple Institute - Ritual Objects
Item Purpose
Copper Laver For Kohanim to wash at start of day
Mizrak Holds blood from sacrificial animals
Large Mizrak Holds blood from larger animals
Three Pronged Fork To arrange offerings on Altar
Measuring Cup To measure meal offerings
Copper Vessel for Meal Offerings To prepare meal offerings
Silver Shovel To remove ashes from Altar
Silver Vessel for Wine Libation For wine accompanying offerings
Lottery Box For Yom Kippur
Silver Altar Cup for Water Libation For Sukkot
Silver Libation Vessels For Sukkot
Sickle To reap the Omer barley
Other Offering Implements To offer the Omer barley
Abuv To roast the Omer barley
Menorah Cleansing Vessel To clean the Menorah
Oil Pitcher For replenishing the Menorah
Small Golden Flask For replenishing individual Menorah lamps
Frankincense Censer
Incense Chalice For Ketoret or Incense Offering
Incense Shovel For Ketoret or Incense Offering
Menorah See Menorah
Table of the Showbread See Showbread
Incense Alter For Ketoret or Incense Offering
Ark of the Covenant (mock up) See Ark of the Covenant
The Crown Crown worn by the High Priest
Garments of the High Priest See High Priest
Silver Trumpets Announce special occasions and offerings
Gold-Plated Shofar For Rosh Hashanah. See Shofar
Silver-Plated Shofar For fast days. See Shofar
Harp Used by the choir of Levites singing Psalms
Lyre Used by the choir of Levites singing Psalms

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[edit] Temple Institute Ritual Objects for Temple Use

User:Daniel575|Daniel575]] removed the list of links to Temple Institute Ritual objects for Temple use. Pending this discussion, I've moved the list below my comment here. I believe this is one of the most notable things about the Temple Institute, a principle reason why ordinary people might be interested in visiting it, notwithstanding its politicial views. Whether we agree or not, I believe we have to report the information that is of primary public notability, even if it is not what we personally are most interested in. Also, wanted to ask whether the list should appear here, The Third Temple article, or both places. Shavua Tov, --Shirahadasha 02:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Building of Temple Ritual Items

As part of its ongoing effort to prepare for a future rebuilt Temple, the Temple Institute has been preparing ritual objects suitable for Temple use. Several items to be used in the Temple have been made by the Temple Institute. [1]

It is just a list of links. External links in an article should be minimized. One link to their website, where all of these artifacts are listed, suffices. You could make a list of the article without adding a link to every one of them. Wikipedia is not a link collection, and definitely inside the main text links should be limited. The way in which you added these links is really contradictory to Wikipedia policy. --Daniel575 | (talk) 07:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
With or without links, what about in table form alongside the article, as per example? J.christianson 08:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
No. As I said, this whole thing is contrary to Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia is not a collection of links. One link to the TI portal on temple artifacts suffices. --Daniel575 | (talk) 09:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
What about in this form, without individual links? J.christianson 09:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
That looks much better. Without the links, it looks ok, but I actually don't really see the use of it. But if you insist on adding it, fine. I just think it's unnecessary, since anyone can click on the link and see it all there. --Daniel575 | (talk) 10:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy of 2006

Daniel575, I've removed the "controversy of 2006" content. This is part of the Temple Mount controversy, which is covered in the Temple Mount article, only a summary is needed here.

I haven't removed its coverage there, but I honestly don't believe anything but a brief summary is encyclopedic. The content here seemed much more like the content of a newspaper article, covering a particular spat on a particular day, than an encyclopedia article. An encyclopedia covers broad issues in summary fashion. It doesn't address individual events in isolated, journalistic fashion. Wikipedia notability policy is in terms of notability among scholars. Scholarly notability is measured in terms of light, not heat. If we measure notability by the amount of noise people make, we should probably all be writing articles about pornography. Blow-by-blow accounts of insults people trade at each other generally sheds little light on issues of scholarly relevance. --Shirahadasha 22:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Foreign Support

The report on 34 people from Papua New Guneae visiting and donating "several thousand dollars" doesn't strike me as encyclopedic. We don't have to report every news incident. The visitors appeared to be ordinary tourists, not government dignitaries. One would expect an organization to periodically receive visitors and receive donations. Best, --Shirahadasha 02:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)