Talk:The Sorrows of Young Werther

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Contents 1 The Original Title 2 Correct title 3 Napoleon 4 Bildingsroman? 5 Awful book cover 6 Frankenstein 7 Plot Summary 8 References 9 Fair use rationale for Image:Werther cover.jpg 10 The "s" belongs in the title

[edit] The Original Title

The reason for the "wierd Genitiv" (as described when removed in the history) is that the omission of the 's' from the end of Genetiv nouns is NORMALLY reserved for Jesus Christ, but was used PURPOSEFULLY by Goethe to symbolize Werther's view of himself (not to symbolize that Werther was, himself, actually a Christ-figure). It is NOT a typo, not a mistake, it is an important part of the novel.

The original title is "Die Leiden des jungen Werther": http://www.amazon.de/Leiden-jungen-Werther-Johann-Wolfgang/dp/3938484152

An edition on Amazon (or any bookseller) is not a valid reference. Softlavender (talk) 04:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Correct title

German Wikipedia settles it: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Leiden_des_jungen_Werthers Softlavender (talk) 04:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Napoleon

this page doesnt seem detailed enough! and what about Napoleon, shouldnt it be mentioned that he read it 7 times and took it with him in exile?

[edit] Bildingsroman?

Shouldn't someone also mention that this is the classic definition of a Bildungsroman? It is possibly the originating example of such a genre.

Werther isn't the classic definition of a Bildungsroman. That's another novel by Goethe: Wilhelm Meister. --Folantin 10:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awful book cover

What is that AWFUL book-cover? Is that the only English-language edition available? That cover looks about as much like Werther as Don Johnson looks like Dakota Fanning. Could you please use another book cover, or another image altogether, or no image at all? ~ Softlavender

I very much second that. That cover is ugly and should be replaced.--Svetovid 12:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I second that as well. But I think, from looking around that it's the only large picture available. All the other ones are very small that I've seen. The copy I have also contains Novella, so I don't think that would be acceptable. That would be [1] Millancad 11:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I also do just love this cover, [2] (treally wish I'd bought that translation). But I don't know of it's a bit too modern or risque. Millancad 11:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frankenstein

A copy of Frankenstein I currently own refers to Werther as Werter (without the h). Is this true for the original text (Frankenstein) in general? If so, should the misspelling be pointed out in this article? I.M.Fearless 19:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

No; irrelevant. Softlavender (talk) 04:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plot Summary

One of the recent edits to the plot summary sounds confused and is full of errors. It's kind of funny, but it should probably be checked for accuracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.44.126.218 (talk) 17:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to add to it, and I'd like to remove the parallels to the author's life, but I'm not sure if I know how. If I really mess that part up, I'll revert. And also, is something going to be done about an infobox? I'm pretty sure that I don't know how to do those. ɱўɭĩє^{What did I do}_wrong 20:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I also have nominated the article for peer review. ɱўɭĩє^{What did I do}_wrong 20:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

i think there are some statements which need a clear citing of their sources in the form of <reference> </reference> IleanaCosanziana 22:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I was looking to do that, but I don't really know how to refrence, so I just put the refrences at the bottom. Millancad 23:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Werther cover.jpg

Image:Werther cover.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 00:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The "s" belongs in the title

German Wikipedia settles it:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Leiden_des_jungen_Werthers Softlavender (talk) 04:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)