Talk:The Ring (2002 film)

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"If you rewind on the DVD" hahah, someone change that.

Contents 1 Questionable implications re: originality 2 Who's Noah? 3 Cleanup? 4 I just added a few changes. 5 Ringu 6 Er... 7 billy and mandy 8 This is the first Japanse movie that have been remade by americans ? 9 References in Popular Culture 10 The Ring 3 11 Character's name 12 Merge with Ring Trilogy 13 Plot summary 14 Fair use rationale for Image:The ring poster2.jpg

[edit] Questionable implications re: originality

"The Ring represents something of a turning point in American horror films, in that, first, it opened the way for American remakes of Japanese horror films (see: The Grudge). Secondly, it dealt with a folkloric entity, in this case a vengeful ghost, where most American horror films that focus on supernatural entities focus on the devil (see: The Exorcist or The Omen)."

Vampires, werewolves, zombies and ghosts have been featured in American horror films since the dawn of time.

Seconded. Freddy, Jason, Michael Myers, Pinhead ... The Devil is the exception in American supernatural horror for the last three decades. I'm editing this, anyone opposed feel to edit or discuss more. :) — Hobart 22:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Disagreed. The character of "Samara Morgan" is a born evil spirit (when the natural mother Evelyn tries to drown it in water. Samara is shown to have no biological father....So there is an indication of a supernatural entity..Also, the little girl is shown as evil when the horses die...in essence, the picture conveyed is that of an evil spirit that had entered the human world in the form of a girl, seeking revenge for having been killed..

Does not waver from the traditional American plot of devil and evil spirits..

Well, if you go back to the charachter of Yamamura Sadako, you'd know that she was a human daughter of a human woman. This human woman killed herself, because she believed she had supernatural powers but when she wanted to show people they accused her for being a fraud. So, if you really go back. Yamamura Sadako is a human girl, but with supernatural power of creating images (nensha). She is revenging for her wrongfully death by her FATHER. Then she came back through the videotape.

I maybe strayed from the core of this discussion, but I wanted to show that she's been a human having Nensha. Omernos 14:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The artical does not state the age certificate . please can someone put it in ...

[edit] Who's Noah?

The plot says "Samara kills Noah;". Who's Noah ? Jay 15:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The guy who dies during the last sequence of the film, i.e. Aidan's father. 65.145.213.126 06:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup?

Can anyone provide rationale behind the marking of this article for cleanup? 65.145.213.126 06:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I just added a few changes.

About the true story behing the ring, and that it is an original story (a true one) not a remake. I figured I'd do this since I am on my 4th day after watching the tape, and the burns are becoming unbearable. I fear noone will tail me.

Go to www.ringscommunities.com

[edit] Ringu

Ringu wasn't released in theaters when The Ring was in theaters, but appeared on DVD around the DVD release of The Ring

What's Ringu?--Will2k 04:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC) the original film is ringu

[edit] Er...

Why does The Ring redirect here? That's completely ridiculous. john k 01:26, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Why shouldn't it? What should it direct to instead? Mdwh 01:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Der Ring des Nibelungen is at least as well known as this recent film. It should point to the disambiguation page. john k 02:20, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

And yet, "The Ring" is simply a nickname for Der Ring des Nibelungen. The S 03:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I was disappointed to find that it doesn't redirect here. And as far as Wagner is concerned, I'm with Mark Twain .... "Wagner's music is much better than it sounds" ... Gardener of Geda | Message Me.... 01:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks:To any and all that helped write the synopsis for The Ring, good on you folks. I only happened to see this movie after getting home from work one morning. The description was exactly as I had seen the movie. I've since bought this on DVD. Good on ya's!!. :)

[edit] billy and mandy

the ring appears in the grim adventures of billy and mandy. billy rents a video, plays it. a ring appears and a chupacabra pops out of the TV and starts to suck on billy's nose. can someone add this to the refrences in pop culture part? (I dont know how.)

Ok, sure I'll add it. AquafireGal 05:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

But that's original research, no? And original research is against the rules. Ketsuekigata 22:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This is the first Japanse movie that have been remade by americans ?

It said "This is the first Japanse movie that have been remade by americans" is that ture .

Clearly not. The Magnificent Seven springs to mind. Should be removed, I would have thought.

'The Magnificent Seven' is based on Kurosawa's 'The Seven Samurai', but it's certainly not a remake. --80.133.184.43 (talk) 11:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References in Popular Culture

The Ring is an American remake of a Japanese movie, which was influenced by Japanese folklore. Please stop putting Japanese works under "References in Popular Culture." Also, no original research, please.

Ketsuekigata 00:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

You are wrong. Ringu is based on the book "Ring" by Koji Suzuki. There are references to Asian (they are not exclusively Japanese) folklore in all of the movies, but the book itself is not based on such. The book is about a virus, not a ghost per say. Sadako was also a fully grown woman, not to mention a hermaphrodite, who was raped and killed by a doctor infected with IIRC small pocks. This combined with her DNA to form the Ring Virus. The plot of the movie Ringu is quite different from that of the book, although many of the names and the general storyline remained unchanged. As an example of the character similarities, Asakawa, the main character in Ringu, was actually a man in the book. I am adding the proper credit to Mr. Suzuki and his novel. My citation is the credits to both movies clearly indicate the they were based on this science fiction novel. Next time do some research.

I have also removed a line and placed it here. This line is more appropriate in describing the book. As someone pointed out, she is an evil spirit in the movies. Ringu 2 says Sadako's father was a spirit from the sea and we can tell she is a spirit (ghost) in the films. Her appearance is consistent with ghosts in Asian culture. In any case neither is explained in the American remake. Since it follows the movie Ringu closer than the book and the book and the movie are different in their story, I don't think it belongs in this article, which is about the American remake. Perhaps a new article about the whole series, but not here.

    The film is a modern example of an ancient cultural meme, the motif of harmful sensation.

[edit] The Ring 3

what happened to the article on The Ring 3??

[edit] Character's name

Aiden or Aidan? Which one is the real name of the boy from the film? We should change the two into one —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Vinx (talk • contribs) 05:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Ring Trilogy

I believe they are part of each other, no? --Amaraiel 05:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

no —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.114.219 (talk) 00:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

nope.--ArnoldPettybone 02:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

No... absolutely wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Vinx (talk • contribs) 03:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

No. ~~Lazyguythewerewolf . Rawr. 22:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summary

I've removed the {{plot}} tag from the plot summary, which in my opinion is readable and, at 600 words, not excessively long for an article on this subject. --Tony Sidaway 02:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The ring poster2.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)