Talk:The Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band

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This article was nominated for deletion on 12/4/2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] Basic information

I've put in some basic information just to get the ball rolling. Please expand.K8 fan 08:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I've added biographical information from the cartoon history of the band, hopefully removing enough POV to make it acceptable as a Wikipedia article.K8 fan 07:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Photo paranoia has struck even this sleepy backwater of Wikipedia. The image I added is from the promotional photo area of www.bigdamnband.com, and the copyright to the photo is owned by the band (as Work for Hire), and I have the permission of ALL THREE BLOODY MEMBERS OF THE BAND!K8 fan 03:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, by uploading an image owned by the band, and provided for the specific purpose of publicity, I stumbled upon one of those tempests in a teapot that frequently consume people who should know better. Rev Josh Peyton re-affirmed last night by phone that the image is free to use on Wikipedia. I guess I'll have to wait until they play Kansas City, Missouri again so I can take a mediocre picture that will meet someone's definition of doctrinal purity.K8 fan 23:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I've uploaded a mediocre picture that I personally shot at a concert in Chicago. Apologies for the worse quality. At some point the band will release their promotional picture under an open license. But deleting images is the wrong way to send a message. K8 fan 00:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Potential deletion

The Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band has been on tour constantly and play 200+ dates a year. They have opened for other nationally known acts, and headline at nationally known blues clubs including the House of Blues. They have played at blues festivals all over the US and at festivals in Italy and Switzerland.

I don't believe there is an actual measure of "notability" where one can say "this person is notable and this person is not", but in the world of roots blues, The Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band is already well known in the genre and gets reviewed in the genre press. K8 fan 22:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

_____________ The Big Damn Band has sold thousands of records world wide, appeared on the Jerry Springer show, performed live on NPR, Sirius Satellite Radio, etc. Just because you haven't heard of them - it means nothing. Isn't the damn encyclopedia supposed to inform people anyway.

You need to cite some reliable sources for your information, the prod has been re-added until you can provide more than just a myspace site. Please check out the reliable sources policy and the music notability guidelines for further advice on how to do this. Alternatively, drop me a line to discuss it further. All the best, The Rambling Man 11:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

A sinple Google search (which anyone proposing to delete a page should have done) reveals the band has played By Southwest, is sold on Raphosody and Amazon. This is a band with an enthusiastic following, as may be seen from a search of YouTube. K8 fan 18:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Well that's fine but it still doesn't meet WP:MUSIC in my opinion so since you repeatedly remove the {{prod}} tag, I'll formally nominate it for WP:AFD. The Rambling Man 19:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I only removed it once, and that was after I added a "Notability" section. K8 fan 19:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I beg your pardon, the prod was removed twice in total, but the first was by an anonymous editor, working from 210.10.202.228. However, it's not a notability section we're after, it's ensuring the information in the article has reliable sources to verify its notability. I'd be delighted if the community keep the article by improving it to meet these Wikipedia policies, that's why I've raised it at articles for deletion. All the best... The Rambling Man 19:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I only removed it once, and that was after I added a "Notability" section. K8 fan 19:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe they meet the following criteria on that page:

1. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in reliable sources.
2. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
3. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that page.)
4. Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast on a national radio or TV network.

For #1, In the summer of 2006, they did a tour of Italy and Switzerland. For #2, they are well-respected for their mastery of the "Clarksdale" style of "country blues" (Charlie Patton was the most well-known performer). For #3, they have recorded the theme song for a TV program in Canada. For #4, the Sirius broadcast. K8 fan 19:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

That's fine, so feel free to add your comments to the articles for deletion debate. Ideally you can reference these criteria within the article using WP:CITE as your guideline. You still need reliable sources to cite these, you can't just write 'they did a tour', it needs citation. The Rambling Man 19:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll be interviewing the members of the band April 26th, and will substantially revise the article providing as much reference information as possible. K8 fan 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)