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1 Fair use rationale for Image:Baby's got a temper CD.jpg
2 Fair use rationale for Image:Breathe Prodigy.jpg
3 Fair use rationale for Image:Everybody-in-the-place-01.jpg
4 Fair use rationale for Image:Firestarter Prodigy.jpg
5 Fair use rationale for Image:Fire-Jericho.jpg
6 Fair use rationale for Image:No Good (Start the Dance).jpg
7 Hey, can we add some more information to the discography?
8 G-Force (Energy Flow) is the first single?
9 "Mindfields" single
10 "What Evil Lurks" - a single or an EP?

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[edit] Hey, can we add some more information to the discography?

Possibly the positions the singles charted both in the UK and US...and maybe the sales for each of the albums.

Have fully rewritten the page with chart positions and a link to Prodigy infobox - will add album sales as soon as I can find them. By the way, please sign posts. Thank you! Sebrat 18:40, 17 August 2007

[edit] G-Force (Energy Flow) is the first single?

As the topic asks, was "G-Force (Energy Flow)" the first single The Prodigy released? Apparently the song appears on a compilation album, Kaos Theory volume 1. On discogs.com, it says the compilation album was released in 1992, source. Was every song or a selection of them released as singles also? There is no proof. Discogs' list of The Prodigy's discography, seen here, doesn't list "G-Force (Energy Flow)" as a single at all. None of the Prodigy fan sites lists up this song as a single neither. To be present on a compilation album (apparently released in 1992, a year after for instance "What Evil Lurks"), does not mean it was a single. Until solid proof can be produced, I suggest we leave the remark of it being a single out of the list.

-cun 09:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Look at this...

it lists the track on the cover. The listing are here:

Kaos Theory

and also

[[:Image:|Prodigy "G Force (Energy Flow)" from "Kaos Theory Volume 1" compilation excerpt]] [[Image:|180px|noicon]]

An excerpt Prodigy "G Force (Energy Flow)" from "Kaos Theory Volume 1" compliaton

Problems listening to the file? See media help.

I'm sorry if you were no paying attention at the time, but that doesn't make your POV correct - evidence, please!!! BRIANTIST (talk) 14:53, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I was paying attention, good sir. As I said, and let me quote: Was every song or a selection of them released as singles also? There is no proof. [...] To be present on a compilation album (apparently released in 1992, a year after for instance "What Evil Lurks"), does not mean it was a single.

The cover art does not imply in any way that the song was a single. Rather, it was only just appearing on a compilation, which several other Prodigy songs also has, but that doesn't qualify for them being singles too. Sorry, but this does not provide solid proofs.

Sincerely,

cun 15:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I must say, cun's points of view make the most sense to me. And it also seems like Briantist is slighty ignoring cun's arguments. Jonashm 15:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

What more proof do you need other than a track listing and the cover art? It seems good enough proof to me. BRIANTIST (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

If you can provide PROOF that it wasn't a Prodigy track then fine, but you have not. However I will edit the text to make it clear that it was a white-label release and not a "normal" one. BRIANTIST (talk) 15:39, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

You don't seem to get the point at all. There is a difference between a single and a compilation album. To be a track in the latter does not qualify to be defined as the first. You are clearly ignoring my arguments here. Should I for instance list the Prodigy song "Razor" as a single just because it was featured on Their Law: The Singles 1990-2005? You are also putting words in my mouth. I have never said it wasn't a Prodigy track, I say it is not a Prodigy single. There is a difference here, my friend. To prove a negative assertion is fruitless, you should prove the positive assertion instead, which you have not. The positive assertion is: "G-Force (Energy Flow)" is a single by The Prodigy. There are proofs it was a track on the compilation album Kaos Theory volume 1, but not that it is a single.

Sincerely, cun 16:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Is there some definition of "single" that I have missed? As far as I know if something is put out on a white label, it is still a single... I think from what you have said that a more complete list as a discography would be a jolly good idea because otherwise you are just excluding material that offends your POV. BRIANTIST (talk) 16:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

It could possibly be included in a list of compilations, soundtracks etc The Prodigy have appeared on, but it is still not a single. Read the definition in the article about singles. When a track is released on any sort of album together with other tracks either by the same artist or by various artists, it is no longer alone, hence it's not (a) single. Although the single of "What Evil Lurks" is accompanied by three other tracks, the release itself is called "What Evil Lurks" and the focus is on the title track (and it is not an album release). The Kaos Theory album is not a single because it is centered on many songs by different artists and not a release specifically of "G-Force (Energy Flow)". I don't know the Wikipedia guidelines of listing up tracks in compilations, bootlegs etc in a discography list, but you could take a look at the Tracks Appear On part in the Discogs.com list dedicated to The Prodigy towards the bottom of the page here

Sincerely, cun 18:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Mindfields" single

According to a CD-audio biography I have of The Prodigy, their song "Mindfields" from The Fat of the Land album was released as a single. Can anyone else confirm this? Geeky Randy 05:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I can't find any reference to this anywhere - was this an official biography? There is a possibility that it was released as a promotional single after appearing in the soundtrack to "The Matrix", but I find this unlikely. If it were a promotional single, it would not be appropriate for the discography. Thanks for checking, though. Sebrat 08:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "What Evil Lurks" - a single or an EP?

According to the official Prodigy homepage, "What Evil Lurks" is an EP. They also think "Baby's Got a Temper" is an EP. Might this be due to the fact that none of these songs appeared on any album? I'm not sure the site is entirely trustworthy, as it claims that Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned was released on 7th October, 2005 (how come I had a legal copy of it in August, then?) (it might be an American release date or something, but anyhow...) cun 12:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd say it's borderline, so I went ahead and went by the official accounts and move the two into EPs. Drewcifer (talk) 22:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)