Talk:The Portsmouth Grammar School
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[edit] Notable Past Students
In an interview on Radio 1 this morning Fred Dinenage has denied that he went to the Grammar, stating he went to a school in Brum instead. So it might be benificial to assertain where we got that malinformation from.
[edit] Neutrality
I don't think that this can really stay in the article, as it is clearly not neutral: "Dr. Hands has done much since his arrival for the school, he has enlarged the school and improved enormously all aspects to school life." --65.29.77.73 05:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Page Archived
The issues raised in previous discussions have been resolved so I have archived these discussions. Any further comments naturally go below. Benjaminstewart05:-) 07:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notable
this isn't notable, and reads like an advert to persceptive parents.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.102.218 (talk)
- I have to disagree, with some expansion and work this could be a very good article. Deletion would also defeat the objective of the Wiki Schools Project, as the majority of articles it deals with are of this type, and more notable education establishments articles are with other projects, such as Wiki Universities Project. Camaron1 | Chris 16:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't work like that. especially since wiki isn't an advertising service. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.102.218 (talk)
- Yes, but that does not mean every article that even slightly reads like an advert needs to be deleted. Unless the article is very un-notable, it should be cleaned or merged. Camaron1 | Chris 16:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Assessment
I have assesed this article, the feedback given was: A strong and well structured article. However, lack of references and problems with NPOV need to be resolved for the article to get a higher rating. Also, some pictures and expansion of less detailed sections would be good. Camaron1 | Chris 20:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Revert tag edit war.
There appears to be an anonymous user with a dynamically assigned, variable, IP address 82.26.98.237 - 82.26.110.9 - 82.26.111.152 - 82.26.99.28 - 83.26.102.63 - 82.26.106.254 - 82.26.107.31 - 82.26.102.218 to name a few.
Who has for some reason, either simple mischief, dislike of the city of Portsmouth England or its educational establishments or some other reason not apparent, decided to repeatedly call by one method or another for the deletion of a set of articles.
South Downs College (Portsmouth)
Mayfield School (Portsmouth)
City of Portsmouth Boys' School
The Portsmouth Grammar School
Portsmouth High School (Southsea) a subdivision of Portsmouth
St John's College (Portsmouth)
City of Portsmouth Girls' School
Priory School (Portsmouth)
Similarly this user has recently made changes to the main Portsmouth page by unlinking
Highbury College, Portsmouth College, South Downs College and Havant College Admiral Lord Nelson School, City of Portsmouth Girls' School, King Richard School, Mayfield School, Milton Cross School, Priory School, Springfield School, St Edmund's RC School, St Luke's C of E VA Secondary School and City of Portsmouth Boys' School.
In addition as, user Simon S Sumpton (since blocked) this user seems to have created diverts for
Admiral Lord Nelson School (Portsmouth)
King Richard Secondary School (Portsmouth)
Milton Cross School (Portsmouth)
Springfield School (Portsmouth)
St Edmund's RC School (Portsmouth)
St Luke's School (Portsmouth).
It might be suggested that the user is attempting by a series of guerrilla actions to use Wikipedia policies and procedures in an attempt to get administrators to remove all traces of many if not all educational establishments in the Portsmouth area.
While the standard of some of these articles is poor, their removal will not encourage those who have an interest in them to make the necessary improvements to bring them up to an acceptable level.
Deletion would also defeat the objective of the Wiki Schools Project, as the majority of articles it deals with are of this type, and more notable education establishments articles are with other projects, such as Wiki Universities Project.
Information.
ISP NTL a British ISP has a block of IP addresses from 82.0.0.0 to 82.31.255.255 with addresses 82.26.96.0 to 82.26.111.255 assigned to the NTL branch at Winchester in the county of Hampshire (the same county as Portsmouth). -- Drappel 16:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
I am against the proposed merge of articles suggested it would cause a loss of information in many cases and an overloading of the main page. Notably a similar set of proposals was made by an anonymous user to disrupt the Portsmouth page and those of its schools information is here and also here -- Drappel 21:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Information vs. Advertising
As ever with Wikipedia, I stumbled across this page looking for something else. I disagree with the opinion that it's not notablee. If a school founded in 1732 with a rich and varied history isn't notable, then neither are many of the other schools featured in Wikipedia. However, at present it's a bit of a mish-mash of information, not all of it of great quality. I'm surprised that a school that treats its public image with such importance, and which had such an early involvement in IT, hasn't made more of an effort.
What should school entries on Wikipedia be for? A good question. The Wiki Schools Project has some ideas, many of which aren't heeded here. A lot of the entry reads like an advert. Some of it is out of date; the reference to Andrew Motion, for example, dates from March 2006. Some of it seems to reflect a personal bias; while Music is an important part of school life, so are many other things.
Is someone actively maintaining the entry? I wouldn't want to barge in and step on toes. Having said that, lack of time will probably prevent that.
Disclaimer: I'm a (non-notable) alumnus. And the reverted edits about Mr Blewett may be libellous, but I sympathise with their creators. -- Drfoop 21:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Headmaster Section Plagarism
The section on the Headmaster is plagarised from http://www.pgs.org.uk/seniorschool/senior_headmaster.php - it should be rewritten. B.S. 05 11:07, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
This section seems to attract a large amount of vandalism. (See recent comments about James Priory being a 'massive wanker' and endless gratuitous references to poor Dr Hands.) Better to depersonalise the whole page by not naming individual members of staff. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 22:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
