Talk:The Persuaders!

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[edit] ITC Project

Please consider joining the project! HowardBerry 19:20, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Politically incorrect?

This claim is made at least twice in WP (here, and on the page for The Protectors) but it's never said in what way it's politically incorrect. Is it the premise itself, or does it contain lots of dated portrayals of race and gender, or what?

It's unquestionably sexist at the very least.Graham 00:06, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Well, it might be good to say that. I mean, it's described as "outrageously" un-PC; when people read that modifier they're naturally curious as to details. (I would do it myself, except the discs are still waiting far down my Netflix queue...) -- Antaeus Feldspar 02:19, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Title

The correct title of the show is "The Persuaders!" (note the exclamation mark). This should be changed, or if this isn't possible, it should be noted that WP is unable to display the title correctly and that it actually is the version with the exclamation mark. HowardBerry

Thanks for doing that for me - I didn't know how to change the title of the page. HowardBerry 19:28, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I never understood just why the show was called "The Persuaders!" with the exclamation mark. Was "The Persuaders" (without it) not persuasive enough or something? -- Jalabi99 09:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] testing, testing .. what?

In some ways, Lord Brett Sinclair was inspired by Roger Moore's earlier performance as Simon Templar in The Saint, and it was first tested in an episode of that earlier series entitled, "The Ex-King of Diamonds".

Er, what was first tested? Did Moore play both Templar and Sinclair in that episode? —Tamfang 03:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

You got me. I'm unaware of there being a pilot episode for the Persuaders in the earlier series. I'd support deleting the unsourced statement (the part about the episode; the fact Sinclair is a thinly veiled copy of Templar is pretty obvious). 23skidoo 05:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

"The Ex-King of Diamonds" was an unofficial pilot for The Persuaders. Producer Robert S. Baker has confirmed this in several DVD commentaries. So I guess it was the concept that was first tested...--Hoppy Uniatz 07:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] UK/US TV series

The opening line of the article states "British TV Series" yet at the bottom it's listed as part of "1970s US TV Series"? 82.109.94.139 18:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

That's because it was broadcast on an American network as a first-run series. 23skidoo 22:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article image

I don't understand why the DVD cover was removed. The edit summary about it violating "ITV obligations" makes no sense whatsoever. I have no objection to the image being replaced by a UK DVD release or a screenshot or something, but we need an image with this article and in lieu of anything better, the US DVD release is perfectly fine, especially since this is a US-hosted site. The (now-removed) soundtrack LP cover that was used for a bit isn't applicable under current fair use rules, however. 23skidoo 22:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] April 2007 edits

Whoever did the most recent update to the article, with such phrases as "notable and classic episodes" and "'was 70's TV really this good?' The answer is probably yes" is clearly a fan of this series, and has violated the Wikipedia stipulation about maintaining a neutral tone. Dolmance 14:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


To whoever made the most recent update to the article, claiming that the reason why people in Britain laugh at Roger Moore is "probably due to his tongue-in-cheek portrayal of James Bond" -- I'm sorry, but that's not true. He's laughed at because he's thought of by critics as a talentless, "wooden" actor, who's just got by on looks and personality. Even if you disagree, it is true that he has no reputation in the theatre and has barely ever worked there, was once a male model, and has never made any dramatically challenging films and TV, just lightweight, escapist material. Jokes about his only acting ability being raising his eyebrows have been frequent. Dolmance 14:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] British title sequence

Does anyone know if the British opening title sequence was in French while the American one was in English? Do the words "The Persuaders!" actually appear at the top of the British version? CzechOut 08:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US ratings

The article could really benefit from some hard evidence about US ratings. The original statement that the show was up against "Mission:Impossible at its peak" was blatantly false, as M:I was then in its post-Nimoy slump towards cancellation. No show on Saturday nights was in the top 30 that year, as the current citation makes clear. But it would be best if we could find hard data as to precise finishing position. I've searched for a while now and can't find that data. Anyone got any suggestions? CzechOut 03:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:PersuadersDVD.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)