Talk:The Painted Bird

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Moved from article, this material at the very least needs NPOVing (also removed irrelevant extract of amazon review): --Lexor

However it is now widely considered that the events depicted were fictional, and that Kosinski did not for example wander the countryside of Eastern Europe during the war. It is also considered as a racist book, that is intended on inciting hatry against peasants.

The book rather shows his unfriendly feelings toward peasants and his complete ignorance about their life. He describes them using the same paint as Anti-Semitic books described Jews.

Real life of Jerzy Kosinski looked like follows: he survived under forged identity in the family of Catholic Poles in relatively safe and warm conditions. A Catholic priest had issued a forged baptism statement, that was the common practise in the Polish Catholic Church during the WW2. He was reunited with his parents after the war, but he has never showed any kind of gratefullness towards his rescues.

Xed keeps reinserting the above highly POV material. I will continue to revert it until he bothers to let us know where he gets his information from. RickK 19:33, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)

I am not reinserting the above version, but a different and expanded one. Much of the information is from [1] and [2]

This I can live with. Thanks, Xed. RickK 20:53, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Changed

I rewrote the article. I found it to focus far too much on one point of view, so I changed it to express both and focused less on the politics surrounding the book but the philosophy it was designed to express. I find that politics, like with anything, are a social distraction from what can otherwise provide some level of insight. It is important to be aware of these politics, and with correct English (which wasn’t in the previous article) I encourage further additions to the politics, but please do not remove the philosophical content. I tried to summarize the important aspect of Kosinski’s misleading nature, but I don’t think that because of it this book is valueless.

[edit] Xed

Xed, I think you need to try and have some respect for articles other people add.

You should have some respect for Poles - who you seem to regard in the same way as Kosinski. I will revert unless you can add information without inserting your racist attitudes -- Xed 12:03, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps you are a fucking idiot, or perhaps you didn't read what I wrote, but not once did I say anything of the sort. You poor victim of ignorance.

You write "depictions and especially the superstitions of the Eastern European peasantry have been described to a tee in this novel". It's clear you share his prejudices. You regard Poles as sub-humans who engage in incest, drowning, and meaningless violence - such as eyeballs being plucked out. You are probably better off browsing neo-nazi websites if you believe your contributions to be objective. Thanks--- Xed 13:33, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Now you're calling him a neo-Nazi? You're spending your time trying to smear the reputation of a Holocaust survivor because he was "prejudiced" against Polish peasants. I guess you believe all of the propaganda Cautious has been spreading about the humanitarian Poles during WWII.

Should we do a step by step sentence break down for you here? How do you know he is talking about Poles? Perhaps because his discriptions of their superstitions are true. Your comments have nothing to do with the book and you're just butting stupid POV crap.

So you agree that Eastern European peasantry are sub-humans who engage in incest, drowning, and meaningless violence? Fuck off nazi --- Xed 22:38, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

no I dont, do you believe in censorship of the novel and its entire directive? Nazi.

Yes, you do. Your edits proved it. ---Xed 11:21, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'll write up a larger outline where we can fill in several of the concept both of us espouse and that way this will have twice the info and non of the bias.

If it's like your previous neo-nazi edits, it will be removed immediately. --- Xed 11:21, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

go fuck yourself you dumb pollock

Thanks Mr Fuchs. I'm not Polish. For examples of dumbness, check your spelling Xed 22:55, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

So you're not Polish, you're just dumb enough to believe everything Polish user Cautious says. That's a real improvement.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)