Talk:The Others (film)

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Contents 1 Spanish Film? 1.1 === 2 Pics of the dead 3 Time Period of Film 4 Fair use rationale for Image:The others poster.jpg

[edit] Spanish Film?

Let´s not get carried away by nationalistic feelings; The Others is a coproduction, but internatioally recognized to be a Spanish film.

The fact that it´s in English has NOTHING to do with the nationality of a movie--this is such basic knowledge! It scares me to see such comments. The film is a co-production of the following companies, although it is held to be a Spanish film by the Spanish Ministry of Culture and veritable cultural "institutions" like the BBC:

Dimension Films (USA) Cruise/Wagner Productions (C/W Productions)(USA) Sogecine (Spain), Producciones Escorpion (Spain) Le Studio Canal Plus (FRance)

Please replace the category!

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This movie was shot in Spain, with a spanish crew, but was financed by the American company Miramax, and executive produced by the Weinsteins. Why is it a Spanish film? Larry Dunn 17:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention that it's in English. I'll remove the category. Rigadoun (talk) 20:52, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ===

I disagree with the plot outline here. Surely Charles is himself dead, he is distant because of what he experienced on the battlefield, and because he is disgusted that his wife killed their children and herself. He leaves because he has to return to where he died. If others agree, it ought to be changed--Dub8lad1 16:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree, so I changed it to ambiguous silence. I think he must be dead as well - his talk of going "back to the Front" seems to indicate that what happened in the living world does not necessarily correlate with what's going on in the dead world. Mon Vier 20:22, 10 April 2006 (BST)

Yes, he is dead, and it is pretty clear. It is implied that the war never ends for soldiers killed on the battlefield.

Charles is indeed dead, no argument there. He is cold and distance because of experiences on the battle field and because he is fully aware he is no longer alive. As for being upset with his wife, not so clear. It can be argued that he is disgusted and repulsed by her actions, but it isn't so obviously explained in the film.

[edit] Pics of the dead

Anyone know if this detail--certainly the eeriest part of the film for me--is based on real folklore? Marskell 08:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it happened. The Victorians were a strange bunch when it came to death! Often children who died were photographed in "life-like" poses: photography was expensive in those days and the parents might not have had any other pictures to remember them by. Though maybe we're still strange because apparently Victorian death pictures go for a lot of money on eBay. There are some available to view on the internet too - these are really disturbing and not for the faint-hearted!

http://www.thanatos.net, http://www.sleepingbeauty2.com/images/lg%20pix/64-lg.jpg, http://billblanton.com/pm/pm4.jpg, http://billblanton.com/pm/pm12.jpg, http://www.mikemedhurst.com/images/02255_Postmortem_A.jpg

I can also recommend a book (I needed it for an essay once): Ariès, Philippe. Images of Man and Death. Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Mass., USA and London, 1985. It discusses Victorian death imagery rather a bit.-Dub8lad1 14:09, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Time Period of Film

"Upstairs, Anne and Nicholas discover the old woman is acting as a medium in a séance with Victor's parents. Judging from the clothes of Victor's parents, it seems that the actual time period is some time during the early 1950s."

I thought the Victor's mother's clothes seemed more 40's than 50's, especially her hat. I also thought the implication of the film is that the murders had happened in very recent past (in real time) - perhaps not exactly the 5 days or so that Grace seems to think, but not a matter of years, either. I don't want to edit the page because the author may have some aha! detail that proves the filmmakers' intent to set the seance in the 1950's, but I'd sure like to know what it is. 68.83.143.100 05:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)essex9999

I removed the sentence - when it happened is not really material to the plot. Mon Vier 13:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The condition people have where they have to stay out of the light. What is the name of that condition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.238.240.218 (talk) 01:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The others poster.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)