Talk:The Other Boleyn Girl
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[edit] Spoiler
It would be a nice addition if someone could summarise the story, or at least the first part, and put that before the "spoiler" tag. That way people who don't read past the spoiler tag will still learn enough to know a bit about what's going on. Articles like Watchmen and High Charity are good examples of doing this. -- John Fader 19:02, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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- i just added a spoiler...feel free to change it (BUT PLEASE DON'T DELETE IT!!!) im only new here so its not exactly top quality, but enjoy!! oh and if anyone wants me to add some information on it, just tell me on my user talk. Sweetlife31 (talk) 07:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Argument
I said stop erasing my paragraph! I am not just a fan of the novel. As founder of the literary sociey of Oxford University I have the right to express my views and educate those who do not know what historical fiction is. Historical fiction is is a genre in which a novel is based upon history but is not to be used as a reliable source. Being historical fiction does not mean that the novel is factual, nor does it mean that the author has stuck to the storyline. Every author has the right to "put their own spin on the story". The author can change aspects to suit their ideas and, in short, to sell more copies. They must list their sources, so as not to be sued for plagerism, but using other historical texts does not mean that they have copied it word for word. Philippa Gregory has every right to tell her story, and people should appreciate the novel as what it is - HISTORICAL FICTION - and not fact! (Unregistered user)
Really? You're from the University of Oxford? I'd be amazed at that, frankly, given how you write. Where on earth did you get the idea that an encyclopedia entry should have a paragraph beginning with, "I said stop erasing my paragraph!" I am, however, a finalist at Oxford. So I'd be intrigued if you could give me some details of your studying there - professors, modules, colleges, opinions etc. If you can, I'll gladly eat my words. Basically, I have no doubt that a fictional author has the right to "put their own spin on the story." However, the paragraph you keep adding it on to is not saying that they don't. It is a factual summarisation of the various criticisms from others, who felt Gregory overstepped the boundaries. I'm not saying I agree with them, I'm not saying that I don't. The writer of this entry is correct, however. The debate does exist. Moreover, I'm surprised at your inaccurate claim that a fictional writer must list their historical sources. Often, many of them do not - Margaret George did not in "The Autobiography of Henry VIII" or "Mary Queen of Scotland and the Isles," Rosalind Miles didn't in "I, Elizabeth," Robin Maxwell didn't in "The Secret Diary of Anne Boleyn," and Jean Plaidy never did, nor did Alison Weir in her first non-fiction work, "Innocent Traitor." It is only a few writers who do list their sources and, in the two most famous cases, Dan Brown and Philippa Gregory, the listing of those sources have got them into trouble (Brown more than Gregory, of course.) Please allow this article on "The Other Boleyn Girl" to remain a neat, well-written, impartial analysis of the novel's storyline and impact and not an opinion-driven rant about the rights and wrongs of historical plagerism in fictitious writings. The article is more than fair and contains ample evidence of the book's popularity and critical reception, as well as its controversy. Even if you love the book, you need to remember that not everyone does and this isn't Amazon.com, where anyone can upload their opinions at any time. This is Wikipedia and there needs to be a higher level of editing standard. User:Gboleyn
[edit] Seperate article for film?
I'd propose a seperate article for the film, filming starts in two weeks in Somerset and casting has already long taken place.
Done! User:Gboleyn
[edit] Who is it?
Who the hell is it who keeps going off on some rant about historical FICTION (yes, it's always in block capitals or bold?) This isn't Amazon.com; no one cares about your personal opinions on this. This is about fact and the FACT is that there has been some controversy over Gregory's use of sources and style of writing. I'm not saying I agree one way or the other, but stop turning this into such an unprofessional article. It now reads like a 14 year old's shoddy review of the book! User:Gboleyn
[edit] tone
I've edited grammer and POV statements somewhat; please keep an eye on this article, it's in need of some help. Kuronue 15:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Will do, as I've just finished the novel and have it and the controversial "Author's Note" on hand. --Fsotrain09 04:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Otherboelyngirl.jpg
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[edit] Article error
Hi,I am new to Wikipedia. I am trying to work out how to report errors. In this article, the reference to 'Dr James Higgins', with a phd from 'The University of Australia' is incorrect. There is no such institution as 'The University of Australia'. Also, the only Dr James Higgins I can find on the net is an expert in Latin American Literature...this review seems a bit of an unusual departure... Pookietron5000 (talk) 23:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
