Talk:The North Wind and the Sun

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[edit] shined

Any idea why the IPA uses shined rather than shone as the preterite of shine? My guess is that some Americans emulate the British and rhyme shone with gone rather than bone. jnestorius^(talk) 23:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Huh? What does the one have to do with the other? Shined is a legitimate past tense of shine; what would various pronunciations of shone have to do with anything? —Angr 23:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, maybe this reflects a different BrE/AmE distinction. In BrE shined is only for shoes, not suns. jnestorius^(talk) 23:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Transcription

With all due deference to the International Phonetics Association, neither transcription is to standard American English, in which h's are not dropped, the th of "the" is not dropped, and final r's are not dropped.12.22.206.135 (talk) 05:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

But if you look closely, the /h/s are only dropped after an aspirated consonant (such as [kʰ]) in which case it doesn't matter if you don't transcribe it. As for the final /ɹ/, if you look carefully, you'll notice that the vowels have been rhotacized. --Kjoonlee 06:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)