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Moved. WhiteNight T | @ | C 00:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] One class

Taking one class offered by a college and making a whole section out of it seems to place undue focus on it. -Willmcw 19:31, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

No, the whole section is on the New School for Social Research, their graduate program for social science and humanities. Cognition 19:36, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Then how come 131 words of your new section is just a cut-and-paste of a class description? -Willmcw 05:53, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Delicious Irony

In 2003, the dialectical materialistic Auto Workers Union synthesized the Hegelian Idealistic administration of the traditionally leftist New School. The bosses of the Auto Workers Union must have been doing their social research.

[edit] Founding

I believe school was originally something of a breakaway from Columbia University. Does anybody have anything on this? - Jmabel | Talk 05:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

When the New School was young several moonlighting Columbia faculty taught there, and perhaps a few even joined full-time. But to call the New School a "breakaway" from Columbia seems unwarranted.

[edit] Chronology

The history of the school, and what appears to be its three names, is simply not immediately clear. Someone who knows it well should fix it up. Unschool 02:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Acting program?

Deleting this statement:

A lot of casting directors and other schools/professors are critical of The New School's practicum, as no noteworthy actors have graduated from it.

Not only is it unsupported, it's also poorly worded - "A lot"? What does that mean? Also, considering that the New School's acting program is one year old, it is perhaps not surprising that "no noteworthy actors have graduated from it". This doesn't make the grade, if you will. --Chancemichaels 03:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels

[edit] unexplained acronym

What does D-NE stand for after Bob Kerrey's name? John Vandenberg 04:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

it refers to Bob Kerrey's political history as a Democratic senator from Nebraska. Cuffeparade 06:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Is there an article on wikipedia that describes this notation in more detail? i.e., I have a few questions on the specifics of this, e.g. what if Bob was to become a senator for another region; would both be listed? I've seen this notation is in wide use on WP; I'm concerned that others from outside America will also scratch there heads at this one, esp. the two letter state codes. John Vandenberg 11:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Not sure if there is a relevant WP article referring to this practice, but it is standard in American newspaper style guides. To be honest I'm not entirely sure if it is commonly used to identify retired senators, which perhaps could clear up the necessity of using it in this case, but certainly for serving senators it is a standard style notation. Cuffeparade 05:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I've raised the question on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress. John Vandenberg 12:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The New School in media citation flag

I am hoping for some clarification from the editor who added a fact tag to the paragraph on Jean Rohe's speech at the 2006 commencement. Is the citation required to provide sufficient evidence that she said that McCain doesn't represent the university, or that she said anything at all? If it's the former, then the previous 3 citations in that section appear to speak towards that. If it's the latter, I'll gladly dig up the relevant citations - I know she wrote a long (some might say long-winded) message on the Huffington Post immediately after the fact which should be satisfactory, and there are a number of other outlets that wrote on her speech in the week that followed, turning her into something of a 15 minute 'blogebrity'. Cuffeparade 09:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The New School for Social Research

I think there should be a separate page for The New School for Social Research; all the other divisions of The New School have separate articles. Andywata 10:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that makes sense - as it is this article is kind of split between history as it relates to the university as a whole as well as the grad school in particular. There would likely be some amount of redundancy between the two articles, but a NSSR article would be free of association with a lot of the New School stuff, and would potentially clear up this page as well (I'm thinking things like the noted faculty, which currently pretty much only refers to the NSSR people, while Parsons and Mannes both have some very notable faculty as well). Cuffeparade 12:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Faculty

I added McKenzie Wark to the notable present faculty section. Basically my justification for this was the fact that he has a WP page, so if people have objections please do bring them up here. Cuffeparade 11:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Curious as to who the latest addition to the present faculty list, Reja Sabet, is. I searched the New School directory [1] and didn't find the name. A Google search[2] brought up various entries, including ones related to theater and Iran. If the editor who added the name could explain a bit more about this person, I would appreciate it, especially since they are the only entry on the list without their own WP page. Cuffeparade 07:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Edits

I made a couple of substantive edits (as well as several minor edits), including a modest rewrite of the opening paragraph (partly just to make the jumble of successive names of the school a bit more clear) and a reformating of the history of the University in Exile and Philosophical Tradition sections. I'd like to do a bit more, but I wanted to bring the ideas up here first, as they are possibly a bit more controversial.

Firstly, I think that we could do well to put the adjunct faculty information into the New School in the Media section, as I don't know if that bit of news deserves its own section - I certainly don't see there being a general rule of noting the labor structure at universities in other articles (even Yale, which has had a number of high profile, bitter struggle with different labor groups, does not have a labor/union section).

Secondly, I just don't particularly like the photo of the map of the New School campus. I suppose it might as well stick around for now, but it's not a particularly useful image, you can't even use it as a map at the resolution that exists. I'll be back in New York in the near(ish) future, so perhaps I'll solve my own problem and take a better pic to illustrate the school. Also, perhaps we can add some information about the proposed 'Signature Building' to replace the GF building in the A New Identity section? Dunno, just a thought. Cuffeparade 12:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Inaccuracy

There is an absolutely erroneous reference to Hannah Arendt as a member of the Frankfurt School in this entry. I'd like to know why the original author included her in this coterie. I have removed it in the interim. Though Arendt did indeed reside in Frankfurt for a period of time antebellum (and indeed, her first husband Gunther Stern became an acolyte of Adorno's), she had a pronounced dislike for Adorno and the Frankfurt School in general.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)