Talk:The New Atlantis

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[edit] Sailing, a simile for his time

Just removed the following paragraph:

In Bacon's time, the Age of Exploration by ship was common knowledge. For example, the actors of the time could declaim:

... There is a tide in the affairs of men Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune; Omitted, all the voyage of their life Is bound in shallows and in miseries. ...

*Shakespeare, Julius Caesar (play) IV.iii, (c. 1599), first published 1623.

This paragraph, with its heading, seems to be suggesting that the element of the plot in which the protagonists sail to the new land was included by Bacon to act as a metaphor for scientific discovery and supports this by saying that sailing had been used as a metaphor elsewhere. Given that it is hard to imagine how Bacon could have not included sailing, I'd say this is speculation. If someone can find some scholarly analysis of the work which presents this view, or a quote from Bacon explicitly drawing the comparison then fine, cite it and quote it. Otherwise it's original research. --Spondoolicks 13:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original research and a rewrite

I believe this article is in need of a complete rewrite. It seems like a work of completely original research. If it isn't, it was not written in such a way as to convey that the various interpretations presented here are not that of the author(s) of this article. I don't think it's really salvageable--it seems like a huge book report. RobertM525 (talk) 03:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Rather than just leaving it be, I've removed the bulk of the unsubstantiated, unencyclopedic content from the article. RobertM525 (talk) 01:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)