Talk:The Nation of Gods and Earths

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[edit] Recent expansion

I will be updating the article main space shortly with sourcing for all that I am adding, please be patient. Thank you. --SevenOfDiamonds 17:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] PoV

I removed the PoV tag, please place any pov based issues here for discussion. Thank you. --SevenOfDiamonds 20:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The whole thing is "POV." All that is necessary is an explanation of 5% doctrine. No promotion of 5% is acceptable. I'd put a "racism" tag on it, as well as "pseudohistory" and "fascism." That's my "POV." JBDay 02:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Only one online source?

There's only one online source...and it's mostly ads. Nice. Deathwish238 09:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

A book would probably be your best way to get a look at the situation of the Nation of Gods and Earths. I too was surprised by the lack of online sources. However I feel some of the books cited are very good in their examination. I will attempt to expand further depending on how recent events unfold. --SevenOfDiamonds 17:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


I think that the reason for lack of online information on the Nation of Gods and Earths, is that the publication of those lessons to the internet is said to be taboo. Reasons behind this is that some Gods believe that a person seeking lessons should have to put forth the effort to find a mentor to learn from. A boastful trait of among members of the Nation is to be able to trace his lineage in the nation back to the Father or one of the First 9 born, thereby validating the correctness of his teachings. Publishing the degrees online would spawn an unnecessary number of phonies giving out innacurate or disinformation due to ingenuine intrest in the group and enable people to cause harm or confusion to innocent people honestly seeking enlightenment. That is the reason why the truly best way to find out about the NGE, is to go to a gathering or, if physically possible, visit Allah's School in Mecca. --MaKebA 01:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Explaining an edit I made

Hello. Just letting you all know I changed some of the occurances of the word "Allah" to the name Clarence as, outside of the sect, he was still being referred to as Clarence and not "Allah." Now, I may be wrong about this, and maybe he legally changed his name to Allah and people used that to refer to him even outside the sect, and if that is the case, feel free to revert my edits as needed. The only other edit I made was what seems to be a spelling error. I changed "adapt" to "adopt" in the line "he adopted the name Allah." Again, if I am wrong here and it should in fact say "he adapted the name Allah (as in adapted it to his own preference)", then again, please feel free to revert my edits as you see fit. It appears in the history that I made three edits but really it was just one....that I happened to do in three sections. lol. Either way, yeah. Just letting you know. Take care all! (^_^) --Ksskimaan 01:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to...?

I really think the section that explains the difference between the NGE and traditional Islam should be restored. Also, there should be some reference to the acceptance and membership white Five Percenters such as Barkim. Peace. (MuzikJunky 06:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC))

It needs a source for the comparison or it is just original research which is not permitted. --SevenOfDiamonds 18:57, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed the Five Percent Buddhist Nation Link

The youtube video it pointed to is no longer available.

[edit] OR

Can someone explain the OR violation here? I get why the one section is OR (comparing 5% to mainstream Islam; no sources and it looks like an original essay), but most of the rest of the article seems pretty consistent with what is published about these folks. csloat (talk) 05:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of Five-Percent title Section

What does it mean to "punitively liberate?" Is this a term used by the organization itself? This would seem to mean that the organization "sets people free while punishing them," or "punishes them by setting them free." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.192.211 (talk) 20:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)