Talk:The Moonstone

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Contents 1 Plot Weakness 2 Hindoo / Hindu 3 Preceded / followed by? 4 Fair use rationale for Image:WilkieCollins TheMoonstone.jpg 5 Precedence

[edit] Plot Weakness

Collins' plot was constructed in a clear and masterful fashion, for one who was supposed to be under the influence of drugs. However, the weak place in the amazing plot was Godfrey's third version of the story he told to Mr. Luker. This is Part IV of Sergeant Cuff's narrative toward the end of the book.Lestrade 14:25, 3 February 2006 (UTC)Lestrade

[edit] Hindoo / Hindu

I changed "Hindoos [sic]" to "Hindus". The "sic" made it look like the article was criticising Collins for using what was, at the time, a perfectly normal spelling. Since the word was being used just to talk about the characters, not in an actual quotation from the novel, I don't see why not just change it to the modern spelling. 84.69.129.25 12:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preceded / followed by?

I am a bit puzzled by the entries "Preceded by" and "Followed by" in the info box. As far as I understand, The Moonstone is not a part of a series. I suppose the books mentioned are those published by Wilkie Collins, before and after The Moonstone - but is that information of so big value it should be in the box? I suggest the entries are removed. // habj 11:51, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:WilkieCollins TheMoonstone.jpg

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BetacommandBot 04:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Precedence

In Wikpedia articles about Allan Poe and about detective-ficion, Poe's "The murders in the rue Morge" is credited as being the first detective novel in English, not Collins.

Perhaps the present article means the first detective novel in England instead of "in English"? Could you please clarify this issue? --Djacnov (talk) 12:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

"The murders in the rue Morgue" is not a novel. N p holmes (talk) 11:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)