Talk:The Mole (TV series)

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The Mole is generally thought to be one of the most complex and intelligent of the reality television game shows produced following the success of Survivor

Seems a little POV, doesn't it? - Ta bu shi da yu 07:09, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

It's also wildly inaccurate. The Mole predates Survivor, just not the American incarnation. Tromboneguy0186 08:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll remove it, but i prefer if someone who has actually watched the show to fix that segment. If in a few days it hasent been changed, ill do my best in paraphrasing that part.Nnfolz 20:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Also consider removing the Mensa quote. Mensa would not endorse a TV show (or anything else for that matter) as "Mensa itself does not hold any opinion" - see http://mensa.org gfreeman (talk) 19:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Does anybody know where in the US I can get the UK Mole on DVD? Captaincool53 13:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] The Mole - Australia - 2003 series - Queenstown?

Queenstown? Which Queenstown? -- Chuq 07:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Australia Mole/Weakest Link Crossover

Taken from article:

They had to play a game, as well as endure host Cornelia Frances, for a shot at $100,000 added to their kitty. In the end, they achieved $14,100, which was touted as the lowest amount ever won on the Weakest Link. However, as all amounts have been rounded off to the nearest thousand, $15,000 was added to the kitty instead.

There is an incorrect use of the word off , if the $14,100 was rounded off, team would've earned $14,000, however they didn't. They actually earned $15,000, which is the amount once rounded up from $14,100.

[edit] Angela Groothuis fired because of her age

I'm not knowledgable about the subject matter at all, but I do know there are anti-age discrimination laws in the Netherlands as well. People can not be fired BECAUSE of their age. Moreover, show-hosts typically do not tend to get fired, their contracts simply do not get renewed. Speculation why that happens is simply that: speculation.

Morover, she appears to have been replaced as the host of The Mole by someone who is even 9 years older than herself, making pure age discrimination even less likely.

71.57.43.129 16:21, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Why are you editing wikipedia on Christmas Day?58.174.194.182 12:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Australia - Incorrect claim re season 4

I have just deleted the following from the Australian section:

The possibilty has stood that the indentity of the Mole was accidentally revealed to Shaun, eventually winner of Series Four. At the end of a task, the group were loaded into the back of a police van, to be shipped back to the hotel. Shaun found a piece of paper from the producers that allegedly identified the Mole (Petrina). Some fans to this day feel that that piece of paper theoretically ruined the game.

At the end of the final episode it was revealed that Petrina deliberately planted the piece of paper in question and video of her doing so was shown. The piece of paper did not identify Petrina as the mole. It said that Petrina and another contestant were close to identifying a third contestant as the mole. --AussieLegend 11:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The following was also removed:

Some people think that shaun won the mole by cheating since he found the letter to Petrina from the producers. The replayed Series of the mole was ended on the 13th of April 2007.

Four points:

1. That some people have that opinion is merely conjecture and not verifiable. Therefore it doesn't belong in the entry.
2. It's not cheating when the letter was deliberately planted for one of the contestants to find. It was the producer's aim was to divert attention from the mole by allowing one or more of the contestants to find the letter full of false information.
3. The letter was not to Petrina. It was a false letter to the mole who, as far as the letter was concerned, was NOT Petrina.
4. It has already been stated that the series was replayed in April 2007. The end date of the airing, while factual, is irrelevant and therefore best left out since it adds nothing to the article and only serves to bloat it unncessarily.--AussieLegend 15:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Themoleau.png

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BetacommandBot 03:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Mole US returning in 2008?

From an addition made to The Mole's Wikipedia page, under the United States section:

New rumors have begun to circulate that ABC has decided to resurrect The Mole for a fifth season, this time once again touting a group of 12 strangers in which hides a secret saboteur. While ABC has not made an official statement regarding the show, many sources, most notably from http://www.tv.com have stated that the show is being slated to return for the summer of 2008, under the name "The Mole 5: The Saboteur's Return". ABC is expected to make an official announcement regarding the series' return sometime September 2007.

No direct source is given and visiting the link posted (www.tv.com) returns no such news.

Removed. Unsubstantiated rumours like that can be removed on sight.--Shantavira|feed me 18:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
  • UPDATE- It is now being reported that the show is already in pre-production, and will return for 2008 (summer). A cleanup of the US series' articles seems to have already started taking place, and since the show returns to being "current" in the US, the articles for the first 4 seasons (1, 2, Hawaii, Yucatan), need some reorganization/cleanup.

Here is an official link to the story, there are others as well The Mole will return to ABC this summer with a “simplified” format Doctorindy (talk) 17:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Section

Some anonymous IP is repeatedly adding a section on an internet version of The Mole, yet it is completely unsourced (see WP:V), and gives absolutely no reason as to why it's notable (see WP:N). For these reasons, my assumption is that it is fancruft, and as such unfortunatly has no place on Wikipedia. Please, before re-adding again, I would urge the relevant user to respond on this talk page and state exactly why it should be added, else I will start going down new routes, particularly WP:3O to start with. TheIslander 09:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion it is an equally important part of the mole franchise as any of the televised seasons. It is an excellent example of just how far 'The Mole' has affected pop culture, and is worth referencing. As for individual episode summeries, I agree it is perhaps over the top, but then again Wikipedia should strive to be as informative as possible. Information regarding authenticity can be found at http://www.youtube.com/user/mfsmole (personal web page). In conclusion, keep internet section, just trim it a bit. Ross22 11:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Looking into it closer, I'd probably agree that it's worth a mention. However, just that; a mention. It still, to me, doesn't seem to deserve it's own section. Also, you still fail to provide any sources to back up it's verifiability or notability. These should be third-party sources, i.e. those from people/organisations that are not linked to the production at all. Straight from WP:V: "Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". Until such sources can be provided, this fan-based production really does not deserve it's own section. TheIslander 12:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [1]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 03:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)