Talk:The Media Elite

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the The Media Elite article.

Article policies

[edit] Questionable notability

Does this book meet our requirements for inclusion? The criteria are as follows:

  1. The book has been the subject (The "subject" of a work means non-trivial treatment and excludes mere mention of the book, its author or of its publication, price listings and other nonsubstantive detail treatment.) of multiple, non-trivial ("Non-trivial" excludes personal websites, blogs, bulletin boards, Usenet posts, wikis and other media that are not themselves reliable.) published works whose sources are independent of the book itself, with at least some of these works serving a general audience. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. Some of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary.
    • The immediately preceding criterion excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book. Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The published works must be someone else writing about the book. (See Wikipedia:Autobiography for the verifiability and neutrality problems that affect material where the subject of the article itself is the source of the material). The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or of its author, publisher, vendor or agent) have actually considered the book notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it.
  2. The book has won a major literary award.
  3. The book has been made or adapted with attribution into a motion picture that was released into multiple commercial theaters, or was aired on a nationally televised network or cable station in any country.
  4. The book is the subject of instruction at multiple grade schools, high schools, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country. This criterion does not include textbooks or reference books written specifically for study in educational programs, but only independent works deemed sufficiently significant to be the subject of study themselves, such as major works in philosophy, literature, or science.
  5. The book's author is so historically significant that any of his or her written works may be considered notable, even in the absence of secondary sources. (For example, a person whose life or works is a subject of common classroom study.)

As it stands now, the book itself is being used as a primary source to support the article. There is one reference that probably qualifies as acceptable, but generally speaking we need multiple non-trivial treatments to confer notability. See WP:BK for complete requirements. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 11:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The National Review article I think demonstrates it meets this requirement. This book has been substantially debated in the literature. As I revise the article, I hope this should become apparent.PStrait (talk) 02:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you please enumerate which requirement, as listed above, you believe this article passes? Thanks. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 03:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)