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[edit] Information out of sequence

This entire section appeared after the first paragraph speculating on the meaning of THRUSH, which opens the article. It interrupts the flow and seems out of sequence. I leave it here so a wikipedia editor can put it into a better place.

"The creators of the show denied this but at one point were even told this on the air when one of them was a guest on a LA radio show. Fans went so far to dress up in full T.H.R.U.S.H. uniforms, made fan films ( T.H.R.U.S.H. Training Film # 14: Securing the Desired Objective which detailed a successful assault on an U.N.C.L.E. installation), and even went so far as to attend a Robert Vaughn summer stock play dressed as T.H.R.U.S.H. agents in full uniform and buying out the first 2 rows which had both Vaughn & MGM worried until they found out it was a tribute/gag. A friend of McDaniel was given a certificate from one of the creators of the show that he was the head of the Nevada Satrap of T.H.R.U.S.H. which was based in Las Vegas. ( Satraps are autonomous divisions of T.H.R.U.S.H.). He may well be the only actual T.H.R.U.S.H. agent and lives somewhere north of San Francisco and is working on making a full T.H.R.U.S.H. uniform so he can make an appearance at ConspiracyCon.

A fan and movie stunt man, Bob Short, owns the U.N.C.L.E. car used in both the Man From U.N.C.L.E. & the Girl From U.N.C.L.E. Various other fans own the original weapons used in the shows.

Another explanation was Terrorism, Harassment, Revenge Unlimited — Supreme Headquarters."

  • This last suggestion seems very similar to James Bond's enemy, SPECTRE - Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge, Extortion. gergis (talk) 15:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A.U.N.T.I.E

I have a vague recollection of the A.U.N.T.I.E agency being mentioned once in the show itself. Can anyone confirm? --mordemur 13:36, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Possibly you are remembering the Avengers episode The Girl from A.U.N.T.I.E. Fairportfan 08:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Catacombs and Dogma Affair

Someone added this to the official book list, but I can't find any reference to it on the Net or in any of my UNCLE references. Is it possible this is fanfic? 23skidoo 22:28, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

NO. It's much too old to be fanfic. It was an actual printed paperback book. I have no idea why it's not in anyone's list, and I'm amazed all the UNCLEheads haven't heard of it. It definitely isn't fanfic. I owned a copy, but don't have it now. I bought it in a used bookstore in Southern California called The Bookie Joint, if that's of any help. Pedant 19:33, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)
A second novel by J. Hunter Holly that was never officially published was circulated among fans. Fairportfan 08:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links within copy

An anonymous editor put a number of external links to Web pages about people named into the story. I've taken them out, because wikiedpia articles aren't link farms. The idea of wikipedia is to create a connected web of knowledge - and if we send people to other Web sites, they can't return here easily, or see other wiki-related links.

Instead, please create wikipedia articles for people who you think need them! - DavidWBrooks 17:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tulsa,OK

Does anyone have a reference to backup the "real headquarters" quote? This website Tulsa TV Memories refutes this claim! It also shows why Tulsa was important to the show. --Jimwelch 19:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Although some grump may shout "original research!" it looks like you've found good reason to remove the reference. So I have. - DavidWBrooks 18:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Sweets" is apparently unclear

"In the UK a series of sweets (chewing gum?) was sold at the time of the broadcasts." Could somebody please clarify this for the non-Brits? - Feb 6, 2006

I'm not a Brit, but I'm going to give it an educated guess. 23skidoo 17:26, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

This is well covered in the "Trivia" section of the "Man From UNCLE" page. I don't think foreigners are unaware of chewing-gum. P.Woods

[edit] Back up Stories -

Michael 14:45, 15 February 2006 (UTC) here.

The Backup story for The Man From Uncle was what would later be a one shot, single issue comic. It was Jet Dream and her International Stuntgirl Counterspies.

Michael 14:45, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Someone please elaborate on THRUSH

I think that there should be more information on the evil organization THRUSH itself, its commannd structure, operatives, methods, wealth, etc.

[edit] The United Nations, Credits and Daisies

The U.N. in U.N.C.L.E. was originally to refer to the United Nations but the U.N. objected. Viewers may recall that the exterior shots that led into action at UNCLE headquarters featured at least one view of the U.N. building. According to Kathleen Crighton's THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E.: A RETROSPECTIVE, to prevent confusion, UNCLE producer Norman Felton added this "acknowledgment"/disclaimer to the closing credits:

"We wish to thank the United Network Command for Law and Enforcement without whose assistance this program would not have been possible."

The IMDb has a slightly different wording in Crazy Credits.

By the by, I remember a bit of that Please Don't Eat the Daisies episode: Ilya shows up at the front door, displaying his credentials, and then -- commercial! About as much as was in the promo. Turns out his character was supposedly investigating the stuff the dad was seeking to fire the family's new toy cannon (in real life this would have been calcium carbide; add water to generate acetylene as fuel for a bang). My thought at the time was that the U.N.C.L.E. spies weren't playing "themselves" in this episode. -Wfaxon 19:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] THRUSH dubbed with WASP?

I'm almost 100% certain that when the two-parters edited into movies were shown in the UK, they overdubbed "THRUSH" with "WASP", obviously to avoid any reference to the disease.

"WASP" was the name of the villainous organisation in the pilot; i think only the movie based in part on the pilot used WASP; could that be what you're remembering?. Fairportfan 08:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Campiness???

Something needs to be done about this illogical word. It is very hard to see why it has been used so prominently and unnecessarily in this article. 213.210.20.153 16:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know that it's all that prominent, actually - and "campy" in an American-slang sense exactly describes the feel of many of the programs. I'm not sure what synonym we could use, without becoming too pompous and faux-academic. - DavidWBrooks 17:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

There's certainly nothing wrong with an encyclopedia--which I gather is what wikipedia purports to be--appearing "academic". If a television show is not a fit topic for academia, then probably it isn't a fit topic for an encyclopedia either. TheScotch 09:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

There is an article on camp (style) and you can make up your mind--Phyllis1753 (talk) 17:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Point of View

Re: "This campiness was mostly in evidence during the show's third season, when the producers made a conscious decision to increase the level of humor of the show (the first two seasons were more straightforward action-adventures). According to The Making of the Man from U.N.C.L.E. this change of direction resulted in a severe ratings drop, and nearly resulted in the show's cancellation; it was renewed for a fourth season and an attempt was made to go back to serious (or at least semi-serious) storytelling, but viewers didn't return and it was cancelled midway through the season.":

I think there was plenty of humor in the first and second seasons. It was just more dry, more sophisticated, and smarter than the the rather crude self-parodying humor of the third season. This assessment may be subjective, but it isn't any more subjective than that of the paragraph I quote above. TheScotch 09:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Star Trek TMP theme a reworked UNCLE Theme???

I'm usually open-minded when it comes to people adding statements to articles, especially since most of what we post here comes out of our own knowledge of the subject (regardless of Wiki's requirement of verification and sources). But I have to call B.S. at the statement that Goldsmith later reworked his Man from UNCLE theme as the theme for Star Trek the Motion Picture. I would really like to see someone provide a verifiable, non-trivial source to prove that. 68.146.41.232 19:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ManFromUNCLEbook.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)