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Article milestones Date Process Result July 18, 2007 Peer review Reviewed July 24, 2007 Good article nominee Listed November 4, 2007 Featured article candidate Not promoted Current Status: Good article

[edit] Name

Isn't the name of the band "Make Up" rather than "The Make Up"? I have several of their CD's and they all read "Make Up" rather than "The Make Up". also the Dischord Records website [1], a label that carried the band.

Well I'm going to move this article tomorrow morning. -RRR

Sorry, been in China for a while - as for this question, the band used both names on record sleeves but referred to themselves in songs usually with 'The' - so either is acceptable. --Sachabrunel 11:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

This entry should be edited to reflect that their first album, "Destination:Love - Live at Cold Rice" is not actually a live album. It was recorded in a studio, and "live" sounds were dubbed in later.

[edit] GA review

Here are my comments with respect to reviewing this article for WP:GA status.

Thanks for the review! I've done what I can to address the issues you raised:

• Four paragraphs for lead is too much - refer to WP:LEAD for advice, I'd suggest three maximum.

You read my mind. I was hesitant about one of those paragraphs anyways, so it's gone.

• Not sure about the use and wikilinking of posthumous - it leads to a disambiguation page which isn't that useful and I'm not convinced it's commonly used in this way.

It used to be linked to posthumous work, which has since been deleted. For a definition of posthumous, check out Wiktionary's definition. Although it does not mention musical groups, it is very commonly used in reference to them. (see Category:Posthumous albums) But if you're not hot on it being wikilinked the way it is, I could unlink it or link it to the wiktionary definition. Whatever you think is best.

The one thing I really object to is a link to a disambiguation page, so in my (humble) opinion, I'd remove the wikilink. The Rambling Man 11:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. Drewcifer3000 11:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• "Yeh-yeh" or "Yeh-Yeh"? Consistency required.

Fixed the one instance of "Yeh-yeh." (It was in the infobox, of all places. Woops.)

• History section suffers badly from proseline, should be, max, three paragraphs nicely flowed to improve the readability.

I've reorganized things a bit, mainly moving content among the History and Recordings sections, as well as moving the Recordings section up in the article, right after History. I also tried to reword some things to improve the proseline issues, though a few paragraphs are still fairly listy (but I don't see how else to do those sentences/paragraphs).

• "(see the "biographies" of Nation of Ulysses, Cupid Car Club, David Candy, and Weird War), " nasty. Parentheses don't help the prose, external links within the prose should be avoided, and "see the...." within prose isn't nice either.

I agree that it is oddly styled, but I think external links to other examples might be useful (in some form/style). Do you agree or think I should take them out completely?

Check out WP:EL, "Important things to remember", paragraph 2. Because the WP:MOS says no, I would either remove them or place relevant links in the External links section. The Rambling Man 11:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. Drewcifer3000 11:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• "At first glance the Make-Up might seem to be a Rascals-style, "blue-eyed soul" group, but were in reality much more complex." - sounds more like an essay than an encyclopaedic article.

Although I think it was a relevant point, I do agree with you, so I took it out.

• Recordings section is four short paragraphs, lineprose issues again.

Check out my comments above.

• "skronk"? Not wikilinked and not explained...

I myself find it a questionable term. I've taken it out.

I'll place the review on hold - the most serious issue is the lineprose which I think can be relatively simply addressed. Let me know when you'd like a re-review. The Rambling Man 09:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Drewcifer3000 09:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I've passed the article today following the changes made. I'm still a little worried about the short paragraphs but since complete adherence to the manual of style is not obligatory, and the rest of the article is very good, I won't let it stand in the way of the article's promotion. Good work. The Rambling Man 07:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)