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Contents 1 Urban Legend? 2 Controversy 3 VHS/DVD Covers 4 Freud gone wild 5 Mark Hamill 6 Sebastian is a Crab 7 Controversy 8 Possible influence from anime 9 Something's missing 10 Fair use rationale for Image:The Little Mermaid Ariel's Beginning Logo.jpg 11 Considering this movie as a version of the original

[edit] Urban Legend?

There is an urban legend with The Little Mermaid.I have that VHS version, and it does in fact show a man's penis. From what I am told multiple sexual things have been left in disney films due to animators being fired after production. A Gigantic Panda 13:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC) Since people insist on putting this in, I tried to make it as tasteful as possible.Cbradshaw 01:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC) YES!!!!!It does show a MAN'S PENIS. The man's penis that's seen in the movie is obviously very hard. When you do see the penis,it's shocking, this should be addressed as soon as possible due to the fact that alot of parents these days don't know about the MAN'S PENIS. All of these claims have been debunked - see here. -Jéské ^{(Blah v^_^v)} 07:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

One of the biggest controversies in this film was, Ariel smoking out of a snarfblat (or sometimes referred to as a pipe) in which the smoke hit Grim in the face and then Grim wipes his face with canvas which the part of the scene where Ariel smokes was the tobacco use in this film, in which the use of tobacco or tobacco references is usually unsuitable for younger children in films, by which the part of the scene where Ariel smokes was cut when the film aired on television, although when you smoke from a pipe, cigar, or cigarette, it is extremely harmful for your lungs, although in the musical, Grease and its film adaptation, the Pink Ladies had bad habits where they neglect their lungs by smoking from cigarettes and drink alcoholic wine, though getting Sandy addicted to those habits, although Sandy is smarter than they are. --PJ Pete

I always thought it was clear that Ariel blew on the snarfblat, thinking it was some sort of musical instrument. Also, pipes and cigars are not typically inhaled on. Frotz661 01:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

What about the penis in the palace?

Debunked by Snopes. ([1]) -Jéské^{(v^_^v)} 03:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VHS/DVD Covers

It is very controversial that the 1990 VHS cover had content that was quite obscene, which was the thing drawn outside the castle with an unmistakeable resemblance to a phallus, and later the 1990 VHS cover was banned from stores that do not allow X-rated films on VHS/DVD, so the 1990 VHS cover was discontinued because of the content, and if you were looking for the 1990 VHS cover of The Little Mermaid on eBay, most of them are referred to as banned covers. --PJ Pete

Should the existence of this cover controversy be mentioned in the main article? I would think it is worth at least a phrase, considering the number of units sold. By the way, I have the old cover, and now that you point it out, it is there clear as day. Does anyone know why the cover was drawn that way, why it passed to the public seemingly unnoticed? --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 05:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

It already is in the article.--SUIT 00:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freud gone wild

I have deleted the rather lengthy part about the supposed Freudian undercurrent in this film as it seems to be nothing more than original research and hearsay. Any Objections? Finite 18:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Not at all. I've edited the smaller sections and intend to work on the "plot" and "production" when time permits, focusing on the POV statements, wordiness, and length.--Marysunshine 04:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've worked on the "plot" section to make it more standard with Wikipedia style-- feel free to step in and fix anything I've missed. I removed some uncited claims (such as the one that claims Tianamen Square may have jeopardized TLM's release because some of the drawings for the film were in a vault a few blocks away...), and request that sources be added if possible for the other ones.--Marysunshine 04:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Worked on the summary; mostly just trimming sentences and rewording some stuff. That's about all I can help with for now.--Marysunshine 20:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Hamill

I'm not disputing this or anything, I'm just curious. Is he listed in the movie credits as a voice actor? -- Annie D 02:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I could've sworn I heard him somewhere.. Maybe we just remove it?--$UIT 02:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sebastian is a Crab

I have reverted this info twice, but anonymous user(s) keep inserting Lobster. Since I don't want to get into an editing war, is there an alternate solution? Semi-protected,perhaps?This page gets vandalized alot.Cbradshaw 19:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

Should the article make mention of the visible erection the priest gets during the marriage scene?It's right when he says "dearly beloved". I know it was on the original VHS release but I don't know if they altered it for later releases.Check for yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.35.245 (talk) 17:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC) It wasn't intended to be an erection, it was supposed to be his knee. It was edited out of later editions, and it was mentioned in the article before, but was deemed more trivial than encyclopedic, so it was removed.--60 Delta 02:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible influence from anime

I recently found a site that compares certain elements from the Disney version of The Little Mermaid to the 1975 anime adaptation of the story. Given that this is not the only time Disney has been accused of copying anime (Kimba the White Lion VS. The Lion King and Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water VS. Atlantis: The Lost Empire) I think this should probably be mentioned in the article.--SeizureDog 08:13, 21 October 2007 (UTC) I took a look at the examples on the linked website.They are so minor that I would hesitate to call them "copies". At most, perhaps, they thought the pipe joke was cute and did something similer. But looking in a mirror, having a friend, and picking petals from a flower are tiny details. However, if you wish to add something--go ahead and submit it. But it would have to be a section on all the artwork and films ever made that influenced the art of Disney's TLM, not these examples of minor import from this one Anime film. --Cbradshaw 06:38, 22 October 2007 (UTC) Reminder:Any criticism/comparison of this nature needs to be based on reliable sources and not be original research. I'm pretty doubtful the linked website would qualify as a reliable source. AUTiger » talk 16:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Something's missing

I think an explanation should be made on this article as to why the film was re-released in theaters in 1997, because I felt it was completely pointless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.185.70 (talk) 08:40, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your comment. Do you feel the article is pointless? The re-release? The re-release in year 1997? In any case, if you are questioning the reason for a re-release, Disney Studios has a long standing tradition to release many of their films from time to time (usually 8 yrs), basically, for profit and furthering the brand. (Not sure if they still do this much in the video/dvd age) This is not special to TLM and I am doubtful it merits inclusion on this specific article. It may be an appropriate bit of info for Disney Studios page. Cheers, Cbradshaw (talk) 00:51, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The Little Mermaid Ariel's Beginning Logo.jpg

Image:The Little Mermaid Ariel's Beginning Logo.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Considering this movie as a version of the original

I removed the sentence, "All the above gives some grounds for people who assert that the Disney film should not be regarded as a version of the Andersen tale, but rather as an independent creation sharing some plot points with it."

While what is said makes sense, it's still a point of view statement, not allowed by Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.125.77.246 (talk) 05:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)