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Contents 1 The Platinum DVD release 2 Hamas? 3 Hamlet 4 Inspiration for the story 5 Simba & Nala siblings? 6 Farted 7 terrorism

[edit] The Platinum DVD release

The DVD was critizized for not having the original 1994 version but I found that verson on the DVD last night. So I don't know what to put in the article. HELP!!!!--Hornetman16 16:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

It's not the original 1994 version. Scenery has been redone (the waterfalls in Can You Feel the Love Tonight and the clouds around Mufasa's ghost) and the crocodiles in I Just Can't Wait to Be King were re-animated. Also, as Scar watches Mufasa, Simba, Nala and Zazu leave the Elephant Graveyard, he moves his head when in the original 1994 version he remained still. Even if you watch the film without Morning Report in it it's still the edited version. Blue Phoenix 23:57, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

If it's any consolation, I have the original video tape. Kochdude388 22:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I have a set of beautiful trading cards (from the 1994 version), which in some cases brings up some of the dialogue. Often it doesn't appear in the DVD edition. In fact, the only change I noticed is that "The Morning Report" was removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yoda921 (talk • contribs) 13:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Hamas?

Didn't HAMAS hijack characters from this film after the controversy that led to the "martyrdom" of Farfur (HAMAS' earlier Mickey Mouse knockoff)? WAVY 10 20:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes they did. source. It's also mentioned here in the Hamas article. Should it be in this article? ~Enviroboy^Talk_Contribs - 15:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I added a section, using that source. ~Enviroboy^Talk_Contribs - 16:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I think this section needs to be rephrased. The lion in the animation looks nothing remotely like any of the characters from the Lion King--the Reuters article is using it, at least in my opinion, for the sake a good story. If anything, the lion looks more like one of the characters from Pride of Baghdad. Sticking an "allegedly" in there would be more accurate. The piece can be viewed here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MyL14OvsmYw&feature=related 172.195.103.36 (talk) 06:39, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I did that and added a ref from the Tomorrow's Pioneers article that I thought was a bit better. Any good? ~Enviroboy^Talk_Contribs - 06:45, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Someone recently removed this section from the Controversies section and put it under its own heading. Should it go back? ~Enviroboy^Talk_Contribs - 01:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

No one opposed so I moved it back under controversies. ~Enviroboy^Talk_Contribs - 02:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hamlet

There's a very clear reference to Hamlet in the scene where Zazu sings for Scar (directly after the Hakuna Matata scene) and Scar uses a skull to mouth thewords of the song - mirroring the famous Hamlet scene where he asks "To be or not to be" to a skull.

-Agreed. I was under the impression that The Lion King was just "Hamlet with Lions", and was very surprised not to even see a refference to the similarity with Hamlet. It's basically the exact same plot. --99.246.109.131 (talk) 14:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

~~Hamlets "to be or not to be" speech was not to a skull. It is his speech when Polonius stages Ophelia so Polonius and Claudius can hear Hamlet and Ophelia talk and see whether Hamlet is crazy because of his love for her. but i see where the speeches resemble one another. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.85.170.204 (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inspiration for the story

Obviously The Lion King takes elements from Kimba the White Lion and Hamlet, but another story that the Lion King takes ideas from is from the real story of the Mali king Sundiata Keita. Shouldn't this be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.191.215.227 (talk) 20:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you find any sources that makes this claim? Ccm043 (talk) 01:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Simba & Nala siblings?

Isn't Nala Simba's step sister? Mufasa seems to be only male lion (besides Scar). And even in real life only alfa-male can mate with all the females. 85.194.227.229 (talk) 13:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The question of Nala's paternity has been discussed at length in TLK fan communities and no firm conclusions could be drawn. The story has other deviations from real life lion behavior that render any assumptions based on it questionable when applied in this context. --Mwalimu59 (talk) 04:57, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the question "Who is Nala's father?" was asked by Brian Tiemann at the 10th anniversary Lion King cast and crew reunion in 2004, and the answer was Rob Minkoff (and, after some laughter, the actual answer was that the writers never gave it enough thought) --Cubbi (talk) 20:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I like to think that Nala's father was scar, at least in that case simba and nala would be cousins instead of brother and sister...So inappropriate (but, lets just allow our minds to wander free) excluding the sequals and pretending they never existed ( I never watch a disney sequel anyway) whose to say simaba had a cub with nala? it could be another lioness at the end of the movie and their tender moments earlier in the film were nothing more than being close friends..Or we just have to accept inbredding occurs in the wild...Maybe we could put this as a controversy?? Ottawa4ever (talk) 02:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Farted

This was the missing word in 'Hakuna Matada', just in case you were wondering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.93.136 (talk) 22:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] terrorism

you shouldn`t consider Hamas as a terrorist organization because the main article about Hamas didn`t mention this . we should keep this article neutral . added by Peaceful90 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)