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Contents 1 Merge in character article here 2 Parody in Superhero Movie? 3 Things to Expand 4 GA Review 5 White Whale

[edit] Merge in character article here

Lets be honest; the characters from the game are not that notable on their own, and the main characters already have their own article. This article can cover the characters just fine without a whole article devoted to every minor enemy. Better to have one really good article than two partially full articles. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

..."every minor enemy"? Can you at least portray the situation honestly? The guidelines on fiction and notability allow for split articles to over important parts of a subject in order to keep size from overwhelming the parent article.

Fine, here's some articles with a little commentary on reception and creation for the characters. (Not much, but enough for a lead section)

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That's from GoogleNews only, so I think we could find some good info through a normal search.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 01:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Geez, just using hyperbole. I trust you got the thrust of what I was saying though. I'll try to add some stuff to the article today if I get the chance. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose My initial impression is to oppose this. The article is fine as a separate one and should stay that way. This one should summarize the important, secondary characters, at the most. Gary King (talk) 02:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

But it would help us create a featured topic; merging the article here has many advantages; it creates a character section for this article, it eliminates a stubby article that shows no sign of any notability independent of this game, meaning there isn't nearly enough information on how they created or designed the characters to constitute a separate article from this one. It would make a stronger article and be a step toward a featured topic, and we would just have to trim it down. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 04:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parody in Superhero Movie?

I found in the Superhero Movie article that the film was making a parody of this game,any confirmation of this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.235.144.148 (talk) 17:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

No,wait.It`s gone now.A possible mistake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.235.144.148 (talk) 17:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

this game was released in korea plz add to article im no good at doing it because you people just edit it revert it and annoying stuff like that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.62.55 (talk) 21:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Things to Expand

The sales and setting sections need expansion. I suggest they are expanded before someone reviews this article for GA and fails it. Epass (talk) 10:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

Ok, lets get started. The article has no edit wars, it has some images but no excess of them, it is neutral point of view, prose is ok

• Reference 33 is broken
• Wikilink all the publishers in the articles references
• There should be an image demonstrating the gameplay not just battle mode. Also, there should be a sailing image that would both demonstrates the plot and sailing which is notable since you do it so much in the game and it is different from Wind Waker.
• all images need very specific rationales as to exactly what they demonstrate and why; general descriptions like "illustrates the subject" don't work
• Make sure there is a reference next to each score in the video game score box.
• The Development section talks about development, but doesn't really say anything about what were the inspirations, or how they responded to criticisms of Windwaker and its excessive sailing and lack of dungeons. Add even more when you go for FA.
• You will probably be asked to expand the setting section, so perhaps (I just finished the game an hour ago) mention it is in a parallel world in that section.
• It is a large gameplay section, and it might be good to break it up like Final Fantasy VI does.
• The lead should have a sentence of what the actual plot is, and could even have a reference to how well the game sold (not specific numbers but generally)
• Once you do those minor fixes, copyediting and trimming will be the main task of getting this to FA, especially with the Gameplay section. Copyediting should also focus on making the text flow through paragraphs and cut down on the number of two-three sentence paragraphs.
  • all of the above are done Gary King (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

And that's my review! Message me when its complete :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Excellent job! It's passed, and with a good copyedit, it will be an extremely strong FA candidate. Congratulations! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] White Whale

Should some mention be made of the fact that Oshus turns into a White Whale, and the aim of Link's Awakening is to wake the wind fish, also a white whale? This is surely at least a reference to a past Zelda game, if not a blatant recycling of characters (as happens er... all the time!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.94.232.85 (talk) 12:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)