Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

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[edit] Miyamoto and credits

Mind telling me why you're putting Miyamoto AFTER the directors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.242.194 (talk) 22:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


Okay, there's several things wrong in here. First of all, NINTENDO decides who the director is? Not really. Miyamoto, being in the position that he is (or even was back then) would have the ability to choose to credit himself as director if need be. The reason that he didn't do that for OoT was most likely because he didn't direct the entire game like he did with Mario 64, so he probably felt it wouldn't be fair to the other guys. Second of all, did you even read that article I posted? It does not state that Miyamoto just 'gave some direction'. He took control of the reins and saw to it through the end. Third of all, why do I think that he had more to do with directorial work that just a mere producer? Well, read the following:

http://www.miyamotoshrine.com/theman/interviews/102701.shtml

"F: Excuse me (laughs). Was this the first time that you joined the development of a title since Ocarina of Time?

M: That's right. I was the director of Mario 64, and half producer, half director on Zelda. As for Pikmin, I'd say half producer, half director. "

http://www.gamecubicle.com/interview-legend_of_zelda_wind_waker_miyamoto.htm

"This time around, [b]I'm not actually the director of the game. I'm the producer.[/b] Mr. Eiji Aonuma sitting here to my right is the director. It's actually been nice to be able to work as the producer on this game. I've been working with Mr. Aonuma since the Ocarina of Time. [b]On Majora's Mask he was pretty much independent in moving that project along. So it's been very easy for me as producer on this game.[/b]"

http://archive.gamespy.com/interviews/july03/aonuma/index2.shtml

"GameSpy: Was Majora's Mask the first game for which you served as director?

Aonuma: I directed the development of enemies and dungeons for Ocarina of Time. But for overall direction, Majora was my first. "


Now, it MAY just be me, but that last comment by Aonuma makes it sound like *gasp* he wasn't the overall director for Ocarina! I know I'm reaching here, what with the lack of any corroborating info and all that, aside from the testimony of Miyamoto and heck, even the alleged director Eiji Aonuma himself, but I think we can safely say that Miyamoto had more of a directorial role than you're giving him credit for.

And FINALLY, the last thing I would like to add is that, if you're going to not give Miyamoto any directorial credit at all, at least put his name in the right order for God's sake. His name comes up first, then the sub directors. Not to mention you have several credits for the other directors wrong as well. Yoshiaki Koizumi was the 3D System Director, not Yoichi Yamada, who was also Game System Director. Also, Toru Osawa is the first director to be credited, then Aonuma, et al.

Now, if you don't mind, quit messing with the page please. Have a nice day. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.154.146.2 (talk) 22:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok he was half director.there is a sourse for this.Do not touch this item anymore.--133.2.9.161 (talk) 03:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Shigeru Miyamoto

This source[1]does not mean he was the director.Producer is a higher position than director so producers sometimes give direction.If he had been the director,nintendo would have announced he was the director.He was the Producer and Supervisor.This is officially announced.--43.244.132.168 (talk) 07:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

NINTENDO does not admit miyamoto was the director.It is not Aonuma but NINTENDO that decides who is the director.And even Aonuma does not state shigeru was the director of oot.he just state shigeru gave some direction,The fact shigeru gave some direction does not mean he was the director.oot has several directors,and why on earth do you say shigeru was the lead director even though NINTENDO announced he was the producer and supervisor?That shigeru was the director of oot is your speculation, which isn't suitable for Wikipedia.--Handsome elite (talk) 06:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

I just want to thank everyone who made Ocarina Of Time a featured article and I only wish I could have contributed more. What I can do is keep the page like this. But again, thank you. Gregory E. Miller (talk) 22:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC))

Good job! When it disappeared from the FAC, I was scared for a moment that it was demoted. So I immediately came to this article and saw the pretty little star. Good job, you guys! I know I wasn’t an active editor on this article, but I liked the game a lot and am very proud of the editors who managed to make this an FA. (Especially since Majora’s Mask is already one… --haha169 (talk) 23:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
If you can help keep peacock terms and unsourced information out of the article, that will be thanks enough. This article is particularly bad for attracting them. Pagrashtak 03:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Back on top

OoT is back on top of gamerankings. May want to wait a couple days to make sure it sticks but it will so may want to mention it again on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.153.141 (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here's what you can do: If Gamerankings has changed their rating of Ocarina of Time, then you can change the number currently in the article. Just make sure it's sourced. (like it should already be) Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 05:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Back on top again! (as of30th May)

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y Autonova (talk) 16:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ummm

{{helpme}} Why is the article protected? Interactive Fiction Expert/Talk to me 10:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Because of a recent edit war, see the edit history of the article and the relevant policy. This is also explained at the template which is at the top of the page. Cenarium (talk) 15:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request

{{editprotected}} I'm trying to edit the page by giving Shigeru Miyamoto the proper credits and by listing him first as he appears in the video game credits. I am not sure why whoever keeps unediting it doesn't want that to happen since that is supposed to be how it was shown in the video game. There should be no controversy. Here's the youtube link and see for yourself. http://youtube.com/watch?v=0t272ikEwWc&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.233.48.100 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 31 May 2008

Not done for now: The reason why you can't edit the page is because it's fully protected due to an edit war. Can you be more specific about what change you want made to the article? It's currently not very clear what it is you think should be changed. Happy‑melon 15:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
seriously, who the hell cares? The names are all listed, so why does the ordering matter so much? The administrators don't have time for trivial crap like this. Wikipedian06 (talk) 20:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Press this button to drain your stress and stay cool--Twicemost (talk) 03:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request for revision of GameRankings

Below is what should be updated in the article:

Game Rankings, a review collection site owned by CNET Networks, ranks Ocarina of Time in first place on the greatest games ever made list. Metacritic, also owned by CNET Networks, ranks Ocarina as the highested-rated game with a critic metascore of 99 out of 100.

If it's worded poorly, then edit at your judgment.

If an admin could just reword those in the article that'd be great. --HeaveTheClay (talk) 21:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, look. Someone beat me to it. You'll find more reasons for removing below, I suppose. I didn't notice that I just placed an {{editprotected}} request that was already requested... --haha169 (talk) 23:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I have gone ahead and removed the template because it is now unprotected again. Gary King (talk) 06:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Aonuma is not the director via OoT's ending credits

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EP7zULA63Ek&feature=related OoT's ending.

He's not mentioned under directors. If he's not listed under credits he should not be mentioned at all. Miyamoto should be listed as Supervisor/Producer. I've read it the interviews.

Does Wikipedia take into consideration the direct source, in this case, the game or a GameSpy interview? --HeaveTheClay (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Eiji Onozuka is the same person as Eiji Aonuma.--43.244.132.168 (talk) 06:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Protected

The last paragraph in the lead concerning Game Rankings should be removed, because it:

  1. Uses poor ref formatting
  2. Poor ref locations
  3. Especially Outdated information --haha169 (talk) 23:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I have gone ahead and removed the template because it is now unprotected again. Gary King (talk) 06:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

What are the poor ref locations? It's only one site, GameRankings. It's on the top ten and that achievement, for years, is something that warrants mention. Whether you like it or not. --HeaveTheClay (talk) 14:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ref locations are as follows: must follow directly after the text with no spaces in between. And if they are after a comma, there is also no space between, but rather a space after the ref tag. Please assume good faith and don't accuse me of disliking what you did. I also must ask you to check out ref templates: <ref>{{citeweb|url=|title=|publisher=|author=|accessdate=|date=}}</ref>. Please do that instead of bare references, it saves a lot of time fixing it. --haha169 (talk) 05:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)