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[edit] Noteable live performances

Is Naives TOTP performance really worthy of mention? It was no more special than any other performance, nor was it the bands debuet appearance on the show. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.14.45.236 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

As far as I can remember, it really helped boost their sales, and is credited as a major peformance for them, I will try to find a link which backs up this source. Nick 17:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bassist

is Max their origional and only bass player? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.131.76.195 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

He's been in the band certainly since before March 2005 (the first time I saw them), and I'm sure he was in the band for a long time before then. Although recently they've had someone else playing bass sparodically since Max has been in and out of rehab. I forget what the other bass player's name is, but I think he's the band's guitar tech. Sven945 17:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
his name is pete denton, and he was asked by the band to be their fulltime bassist, after touring with them as a stand in for max. once it was clear max was no longer dependable, they made the change. interestingly, this happened months ago, but its just recent that photos are beginining to reflect this line up change (ie, hes pictured second from the left on thiir main wiki pages promo shot). pete also plays lead guitar for his own project, paris trading. i know most all of this simply because he is a mutual friend; however, how to present (on wikipedia) this level of hear-say is beyond me; do i simply ask him to confirm all this so we can update it? carlos 20:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Try to find something in print from a reputable source. As long as it's a verifiable fact, it could be added to the article with a footnote. The band's official website still lists Rafferty as bass player however. The band appeared on Letterman tonight, but I couldn't tell who was playing bass. It appeared to be the same lad that was on stage with them four nights ago in Chicago, but there's no telling when the Letterman show was taped. Patrick925 04:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


Yeah but Max is back now!!!!

[edit] standard

this is mostly hyperbole.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Discotrash (talk • contribs) 14:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

er, how is it? example? Alex 10:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naive / Naïve

copied from Talk:Naïve (The Kooks song)

I don't know why the page has been created at "Naïve" rather than "Naive" - all references to the song in all sources spell it the English way - without the "ï". Most important of all are the CD itself, and the band's official website. If there is no disagreement, I will go ahead and move the page to Naive (The Kooks song). DJR (Talk) 12:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

'Naïve' IS English, albeit it a pretentious version. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Damiancorrigan (talk • contribs) 23:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] UnOfficial / Unofficial?

Surely UnOfficial (see External Links) should be spelt Unofficial, without the capital O, to keep with proper English? Or am I just totally deranged? Please tell me what you think... Matty! 11:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right although, to be honest, half of the links on this page probably aren't worth keeping. Any views? Oggy 18:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Like the libertines?

Sorry, but the kooks sound nothing like the libertines, or dirty pretty things for that matter...--Therealchaffinch 19:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] With a Northern accent?

I don't think so. More like a West Country accent to me, best evidenced by the 'Don't let me down' line. Perhaps even bordering on Chinese on 'She Moves in Her Own Way'. mat_x 08:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that it's even appropriate to put in anything about their accent on Wikipedia. As you've just demonstrated, everyone has their own ideas about what type of accent it is! If no one can verify what type of accent it is then it should be removed. Oggy 15:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More info

What the hell? Surely we want more information that that pieces of unnoteworthiness! A.S.A.P. please, thank you. Scotteh 15:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you trying to say that we need to improve the article? If so, I agree! See my message below. Thanks. Oggy 13:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Issues/Areas for improvement

There are a couple of points I feel need raising about the article:

  • Can we come to some consensus regarding "Slave to the Game"? It seems every time someone removes it, someone else puts it back up! From what I've heard, it was distributed only at gigs. Does this make it a single or not?
  • Does the article really need long lists of planned appearances and past appearances? No other band articles have them, and it makes Wikipedia look more like a place for advertising their future performances (this information is available elsewhere). If a performance is really notable then it can be worked into a biography, which leads to my next point...
  • The article really needs some sort of biography! I'll do my best to add some stuff soon, but I could really use the help of someone who knows more about The Kooks than me!

Please post any comments! Thanks. Oggy 13:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

A target to aim for would be the Arctic Monkeys article. Iorek85 09:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


in my opnion, slave to the game should definately be considered a single, even if it was only distributed at the gigs. they intentionally put it out there for people to listen, and even those who didnt get their hands on it at a gig have it one way or another. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicyeah42 (talk • contribs) 02:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I changed X2 plat to 3X plat

accoarding to MTV. their album went triple plat. -thebird

[edit] Possible Link

http://www.themusiczine.com/content/view/131/42/ - Gig review, couldn't see a better place for it.

http://www.prefixmag.com/reviews/cds/K/the-kooks/inside-ininside-out/2655 - CD Review. Should we add a Professional Reviews section?

The album review can go on the Inside In/Inside Out article. Thanks. Oggy 17:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Http://www.thekooks.co.nr > Another The Kooks forum

Whoever has written this article has got totally confused between Luke Pritchard and Johnny Borrell. Please change this so that this article is wholly about The Kooks and not confused with Razorlight.

[edit] More about band's history

I checked their wiki entry to know more about the band, but there is little to mention about them. Anyone up for it? --Soetermans 23:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indie?

Should they really be called indie? Selling over a million copies on a major label (Virgin), doesn't seem to tie in with this. I understand that people refer to a genre as indie, when many of the bands they include in the genre are not on independent labels, but I prefer the old labelling of rock/pop. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.48.1.25 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 31 December 2006.

I agree. "Indie" isn't a genre, it's a name for bands who somehow made it out of the unknown. The Kooks's style is poprock, with somewhat of a ska/reggae influence. Bands listed as indie include French electropop Air, Britpop Arctic Monkeys, harcore punk Fugazi... It seems that anything can be labeled as indie. --Soetermans 18:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Also agree, this bans is far from indie, their album is released by a major (virgin labels) and their genre may be classified as brit pop, just like SOME indie-bands (e.g. franz ferdinand), but being britpop doesn't make something indie. The term is too often used incorrectly when it comes to Brittish bands. (Mellow gold 22:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC))
Several sources list the band as being an "indie" band, or at least part of the "indie" scene. It must be borne in mind that the policies that dictate what should be included in Wikipedia are not whether or not something is true, but whether or not it can be verified by reliable sources. Suggesting that the Kooks are not an "indie" band without adequate reference is, ultimately, in breach of WP:NOR. DJR (T) 02:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

To the first poster in this section: this is a universal encyclopedia, it doesn't matter what you "prefer", your personal opinion is not taken into account. Also, Kooks are less indie than, say Klaxons but are very far from Britpop, The Kooks are not even pop! Wikipedia's definiton of Britpop: "Britpop was a mid-1990s British alternative rock genre and movement that was at its most popular in Great Britain." The word indie has evolved and is now a genre not merely referring to bands signed with independent label, i expect most of you being from america find it hard to grasp that something new, exciting and popular emerged from somewhere outside of your continent, but it has, this should be shown in Wikipedia, all the above written by you is your opinion, not fact. Here I give you fact, Wikipedia's definition of indie: "The term (indie) has since become increasingly popular and is now often used to describe anything in music that is characterized by its perceived indepency from mainstream or pop culture as a whole. As such, it can be seen as a synonym for alternative music.[2][3]" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_%28music%29) Oh, oh dear, the indie classification remains. Phelim123 17:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article expansion?

They are a big band now, in the UK at least, so why hasn't someone expanded the article? Surely there is someone capable of doing a write-up about them inside of the basic stats + trivia we have at the moment. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.215.133.210 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 6 January 2007.


[edit] They split up?

Who said they split up? They only said on myspace, that they will take a break from a very busy year.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.60.174.77 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 13 January 2007.

[edit] Genres

Surely "TopShop Rock" can't be included as a genre? WHirl 22:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

THE KOOKS IS GEWOON EEN FANTASTISCHE GROEP EN DAAR MOET JE GEEN DOEKJES ROND DRAAIEN

WEET IEMAND OF ZE IS IN BELGIË GAAN OPTREDEN

[edit] Moved here from article

[edit] Trivia

  • Luke Pritchard announced in an interview on a French TV show that he attended the same school as Lily Allen (Bedales).
  • According to the website of sponsors NME, The Kooks gathered the lowest-ever crowd for an NME stage headliner at T in the Park. This is thought to be heavily attributable to their being placed as headliner on the bill, while The Killers, a more popular band, headlined the Main Stage at the same time.
  • The song "See the World" has featured in the skateboarding game Tony Hawk's Proving Ground.