Talk:The Kite Runner
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[edit] Spoiler in Lead
I'm going[[ to change the mention of Amir's redemption and Hassan's betrayal in the lead as I think it's too much of a spoiler. --MarkBuckles 09:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Also the fact that he killed his mother during child birth has a very large effect on the story and has alot to do with his guilt this should propably be added in there somewhere. Urahozerpwns
If people are looking up books in Wikipedia before they have read them, they are EXPECTING spoilers.
I'm not sure that's true. I came just to see what people are talking about. Is there any reason why there isn't a spoiler alert? Tb3 19:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Character List: Spoil or Lie?
Spoiler: how do we reconcile the description of Hassan? Hassan is not the son of Amir's father's servant, he]] is Hassan's father's son, or his own half brother. No use lying, is there?
- I opted to describe Ali and Hassan as their relationship is initially presented in the book. The real relationship isn't revealed until after Hassan has died, and the characters never relate to each other as half brothers, so describing them as half brothers would be just as inaccurate. The character descriptions also do not mention the death of Baba, though this clearly affects his role in the last half of the book. Shoehorn 18:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
You are wrong the book does point out that they are half brothers. Sooo... your dumb! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.167.193.30 (talk) 04:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah how you like me now Shoehorn!!!!! OH, and sorry i didn't see the no personal attacks thing so my bad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.167.193.30 (talk) 04:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Literary Significance
I think that maybe this section could be added onto a little more, perhaps listing a few programs that are using the book. I can tell you right now that UT Arlington is using it in a program for all incoming freshmen so they have one thing in common, and it's used in English classes. Dragonfire 20:54, September 4, 2006
[edit] Plot Summary
I just copy-edited the plot summary (fixing up the English and moving some things around so it was more coherent). MlleDiderot 22:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)MlleDiderot
- We seem to be repeating a lot of effort here -- there was an [1] earlier version of the plot summary that was more polished than the current one. Shoehorn 05:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- There are still some issues with the English: for example, the word football is used instead of soccer. There are also some issues with sentence fluency.
[edit] Fiction or non-fiction?
There is no mention of this in the article, so I want to ask. Lightblade 22:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- If the book is listed under "novel," there is always a fair bet that it is mainly, if not completely, fictional. The LC classification is PS3608.O832K58 (PS = American Literature). Furthermore, popular subject headings (according to librarything) include Afghanistan Fiction, Betrayal Fiction, Boys Fiction, etc. So, yeah; fiction. :) María (habla conmigo) 16:35, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Assef-character
Is the Assef character not in the film? And when he isn't; why is he let out? Randalph P. Williams 10:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Criticism
Isnt it convenient that Mr. Hosseini, forgets to mention the post-2001 warth of the US raining down bombs on the Afghanis? Well, inconvenient truths are to be forgotten, or we dont make the NYT best seller lists do we?
-Indian-kid.
- And another inconvenient truth is that you're vilifying an author despite obviously not having read his book. It's hard to imagine this novel being any more anti–Taliban. Or have I missed the point of your snide remark? --ShelfSkewed Talk 03:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Maybe it's just a money grab (don't want to piss off your audience with the cold hard truth) or maybe it's more politcal. Propaganda. If anyone has any sources, we can add something.
-G
Irrelevant nonsequitur from indiankid 71.176.227.46 (talk) 05:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Languages?
I recently read the book, however, I would like to know what languages the main characters, and others characters that speak different languages (there are quite few). The movie is in Persian, I've heard, and I think the Pashtun people speak their own language, but I'm not sure what languages Amir, Hassan and the rest of the people in that town speak, other than English after some move to America. Can anyone clear this up? Is it perhaps purposely ambiguous? In the book, it mentioned 'Farsi', which I suppose is another name for Persian, so is that about it? 65.189.170.90 04:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- The characters in the movie speak in the Persian language, also known natively as Farsi, Parsi, or sometimes Dari in Afghanistan. Persian is the English name for the Parsi (or Farsi) language. -- Behnam 19:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I should disagree with Behnam and above him. The movie is not in Persian and they (Amir, Hassan) do not speak Farsi (Persian). They speak Dari which is quite different in accent, grammar,... although they have the same roots. Me as a Farsi speaker hardly understand 80% of it. Notice that some of players are Iranian and they try to speak Dari with their own accent! Pashtuns speak pashto which I do not understand at all! Rezaghp (talk) 07:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
The language in the movie is Dari (stemming from the king dariush) it is the afghan dialect of Persian which in iran is farsi (parsi), thus the probably loose, use of Dari and Farsi interchangeably. Many people who are literate in either dialect can understand the other. e.g for me persian is a second language so I struggle to understand farsi freely, but for my parents, who are literate in it, can understand both dialects perfectly. It must also be noted that the dari spoken by the main actor (adult amir) is how a non-native dari speaker would speak, in that it is not clear or accurate in its pronunciation. Besides Dari there are many other languages in afghanistan as it is a multi-ethnic country. One other language used in the book is pashtu, which is also spoken by many afghans. Avista (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Book and film plot
The_Kite_Runner_(film)#Plot refers for the plot to The_Kite_Runner#Plot, so I edited the latter based on the film. If necessary we can copy the plot to the film article so that we can edit both independently.--Patrick (talk) 12:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I copied the plot to the film article and adapted it there.--Patrick (talk) 11:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bad link
Unfortunately the link to Baba's orphanage does not work. Does anyone know the good one? Blue cave (talk) 17:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Removing plot information
Removing relevant and accurate information from an article is rarely a good idea, and I am entirely unconvinced by any argument that "plot spoilers" should be removed from an encyclopedic article. Perhaps--perhaps--if this were the only available source of information, then an argument might be made, but removing plot information from this article will not prevent cheating or thwart those determined to read about the book before actually reading the book. There are endless numbers of sites with this information, and removing it from the Wikipedia article merely hurts the article without helping anyone. I would like to restore that info the article, but I've already reverted those deletions twice in the past few days. Other opinions/options?--ShelfSkewed Talk 15:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Just sticking my head in here, but let's keep in mind WP:SPOILER: "It is not acceptable to delete information from an article about a work of fiction because you think it spoils the plot." Albeit, this comes from an essay and not a true guideline or policy, but it's heavily adhered to. Also remember that Wikipedia is not censored. Our job is to be an encyclopedia, not to protect the readers. :) María (habla conmigo) 17:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Factually Inaccurate, Emotionally Moving
Islamic Jihadists, al-Qaeda, the Taliban etc. absolutely do NOT tolerate homosexual behaviour. The penalty can be death. Flogging is the usual penalty for adultry. In the most egregious cases, the woman is shot in the head and the man is beheaded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimeDog (talk • contribs) 16:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Actually the Taliban widely practiced homosexuality. See this mini documentary.
That is complete and absolute nonsense! Your link isn't a documentary. It's something someone made on their personal computer. Th U.S. "Psyops" also widely publicized forged poems which they themselves had written and attributed to Khomeini during the Iranian hostage crisis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.54.218.179 (talk) 07:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
