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[edit] Writing Style

The descriptions of the characters read as if they were written by a seventh grader. I would rewrite the section, but I only know of the show in passing. Any suggestions? SpartanMurph117 (talk) 02:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

The plot section needs to be updated, it seems to apply to season 2?

[edit] Fansites?

Does anybody know KoQ fansites? --84.141.33.183 17:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broadcasters

The list of broadcasting stations in North America is currently "CBS, 38, and the newDEW." Now I don't know who put this on, but the CW is missing (or it might be a typo represented in the newDEW). Either way, I have never heard of the newDEW, and I am pretty sure "38" is not a channel. It may be the numerical equivalent to a broadcast or cable channel in a restricted market (like how FOX is channel 6 in Milwaukee and channel 13 in Chicago). Either way, I don't believe "38" should be on there.


I'm pretty sure 38 is TV38 from Boston, WSBK. Madlobster 21:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor characters

Why have Kelly as a minor character,when her parting from deacon prety much dominates a great chunk of the series,and all I would not consider her a minor character,she is seen more then less and sometimes does strongly figure in an episode (the taking of the god-fathers,the departure to the funeral of her great aunt), she is more or less similar to Holly,so I would rather sujest puting her down as a recuring character. New Babylon

I would most definitely agree. I didn't really look to the bottom of the page to see if Kelly is a minor character or not, but if it has her as one, please edit that. I've seen almost all the episodes thus far and Kelly is NOT a minor character. She is not only Deacon's wife but Carrie's best friend. She is in no way a minor character on this show. Tonetare 22:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arthur Spooner

played by Jerry Stiller - Arthur, Carrie's very ridiculous father, is the classic oddball of the family who lives in the basement of the Heffernan house because he accidentally set fire to his own home in the pilot episode. Arthur often gets fierce and throws a tantrums for the craziest reasons. Arthur is often seen causing regular chaos through his numerous antics and getting on Doug's bad side. He is a bigmouth and braggart who loves bending the truth and this gets him into trouble quite frequently. I Hate Him. Sometimes he is referred to as "The Old".

I´m new to wikipedia and furthermore im not a native english speaker, but i believe that the term "I Hate him." in the discription of Arthur Spooner seems rather wrong in a encylopedia. It would be very lovely if somebody updates the article. Thank You—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.131.126.50 (talk • contribs) , 18:46 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the vandalism you refer to. In the future, Be bold and just click on the "edit this page" tab and remove it. All positive contributions are encouraged and welcomed here.--WilliamThweatt 21:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

lol, sorry but that sounds so goofy. be bold. You're bold because you've corrected an error on wikipedia?!

Uh, click on the wikilink...it's a reference to the Wikipedia guideline encouraging newbies to take the initiative in correcting/expanding/updating articles here.--WilliamThweatt 21:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not making fun of you and was "uh" really called for? I am making fun of whoever created that term for wikipedia. Why not just be helpful and make contributions. What's with the be bold business. lol.

Because 'Be bold!' sounds better than 'Don't be shy!' :P LinaMishima 13:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Lina, it seems like you and that user have a good, friendly teasing relationship. that's nice. lol at be shy. I saw the warning and all

Oh very funny Lina. But as a matter of fact, when you think about it don't be shy to make contribution actually does sound a lot better than don't be bold. so there. :P lol 65.31.100.170 12:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Then why not try suggesting the change on the talk page for WP:BOLD? Or create an article WP:NOSHY? If you think it's more helpful for people, then others probably will too (well, in this case, at least). Wikipedia is about the community helping to improve itself, and you're a part of that, too! LinaMishima 13:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Lina, I guess we're really on a tangent here from Arthur Spooner, eh? lol. But yes, I have read what you said and I have offered that suggestion on the discussion page of be bold. Hope they change it as be shy sounds much better. You never actually mentioned what you think. I bet you think don't be shy DOES sound better than be bold when you actually thought about it. 65.31.100.170 15:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I did, after all, create the essay Wikipedia:Don't be shy ;). You can discuss that article on it's own talk page - back to the topic, people :P LinaMishima 15:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Could somebody help with identifying the minor characters' roles in the show? It would be great if someone could also add more sections and more information to put in those sections. Socom49 15:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I love the Homer Simpson addtion and recent edits. That is so funny. And he does remind me of Homer now that I think of it. good job.

[edit] Last Season?

Where did this business about this being the show's last season come from? Has there been any official word on this? Eenu 04:29, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe it is the last season, however I know that the show has not renewed a contract with CBS to continue the show. Socom49 13:48, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spinoff?

Was this a spinoff of everybody loves reymond? I remember the character of Doug being in it.

No, Kevin James called Kevin in ELR. It's a spinoff, but much better --84.141.16.31 17:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

How is this show a spinoff of Everybody Loves Raymond?

It's not, but The King of Queens is set in the same world as Everybody Loves Raymond, as evidenced by a few episodes that guest starred the ELR family. First instance was Season 1 Ep 9. [1] -D. Wu 00:15, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
The 'world' is called New York. Even Ally MacBeal met with the lawyers from Practice, but that doesn't make it a spin off. --134.95.82.119 11:22, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Doug Hefferman is also a secondary character in Everybody Loves Raymond.
His character on ELR is NOT named Doug Hefferman. The characters name is Kevin. KoQ is not a spinoff. Is Spin City a spinoff of Back to the Future? It has the same person?
"Doug Hefferman" IS a character on ELR. Kevin James played both "Kevin" and "Doug" on ELR. And the "Doug Hefferman on ELR even works for IPS, so I'm pretty sure it's the same character. Ray, Debra, and Marie have also appeared on KoQ, so it seems to be the same fictional world.

It might also be notable that it's in the same universe as the show Cosby. Frank Barone and Hilton Lucas (Bill Cosby) went to High School together and played on the basketball team together. 70.156.2.192 04:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

KoQ is not so much a spinoff of ELR as much is it crosses over with it. El charangista 20:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] theme song

I could be wrong about this, but didn't they use some generic song for the first few seasons, and then switch to their currenct "eyes are gettin weary" song later on in the show?--Glaze 03:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I'm not sure how long they had the generic one, but there definitely was one for a while before "eyes are gettin weary". --Mixx941 05:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
They had a generic song and a plain show title for the whole first season. I know because on the first season (on dvd's) they don't use the song. PharmerJess 02:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I have just deleted vandalism sneaked on the very bottom the page. --Anonymous Jules Fan 17:10, 9 November 2006

And I removed the phrase 'Laura is the biggest fan.' since there was no Laura among major or minor characters, thus making that an irrellevant comment. DannyBoy2k 19:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Why vandalism? Tüllner 19:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions for changes

I think the plot summary needs to be refined - Nicole Sullivan is no longer on the show, and when she was I don't think she ever really "looked after him." The only episode I can recall her feeling responsible for taking care of Arthur is when he tried to sell Doug and Carrie's house without them knowing about it, and even then she didn't do anything to stop him. I believe she was originally hired so Doug and Carrie could have some alone time. GauntletXG 21:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GauntletXG (talk • contribs) 21:39, 5 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Product placement

I suggest to add a chapter about the issues KoQ has with massive product placement (like Coca Cola, Unilever with Lipton, Kellogg`s, Sony, KFC, Whitecastle and so on). As I read on a website recently, KoQ is the one TV-show with the most PR in it at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.225.4.72 (talk) 17:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Emmy Awards

Can someone add a section on Emmy awards and nominations, if any? The first line of this article now says that this is an Emmy-nominated show ... but there is no more info on this. Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 21:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC))

I had added that and they had only been nominated once for Kevin James. :)
Bd8494 21:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Where did you add that (Kevin James' one Emmy nomination) to the article? I can't find it. Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 23:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Neilsen Ratings?

According to this article, it finished top of the Neilsen Ratings for four years in a row. This is completely inaccurate according to data from Neilsen, which places American Idol at the top for the past three years. Unless it is referring to a specific category is placed top in (in which case it should be listed as such), this section should be edited or deleted for inaccuracy.

Some moron changed it all to #1s so I reverted the edit...however, there was no citation for the figures originally provided Vikramsidhu 17:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The series is over :)

Season 19 can't be going ahead if 18 has just been declared the series ender.

Season 9 (2006/2007) was the final season. There was no season 18 or 19. (JosephASpadaro 13:43, 5 June 2007 (UTC))

[edit] references to maryland

who working on the show grew up in maryland? they talk about Glen Burnie, Gaithersburg, Baltimore and Towson, and a few I cant remember.198.23.5.73 17:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The end

"Let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the death of Kings"-William Shakespeare.

New Babylon 2 10:01, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finale information

Why was the information that I moved from this article to the finale article reinserted? Is it really so important that it must be present in both articles? I think not. Just for clarification: I did not delete it, I just moved it to the more appropriate place (and I said so in the edit comment). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.130.4.46 (talk) 21:08, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

It should probably be combined with the Nielsen ratings section on this page.Ophois 00:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Ayatollah Rodriguez

What episode was it in which he called? I know it was in that little beginning bit before the actual episode, but before which episode did it come? Huh (talk) 17:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I will remove that reference to him as he was never a character. He was a characterization by Doug.Gary Joseph (talk) 07:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Then explain how he called the Heffernan house. Huh (talk) 20:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Series finale

Why didn't they produce another season of KoQ? Drop in the ratings? I just wonder... KoQ being one oft the most successful TV series its end came a bit suddenly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.54.49.219 (talk) 12:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The actors wanted new contracts and more money and CBS didn't think they were worth it so everyone decided to end the show there. --70.143.50.40 (talk) 07:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series

I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 16:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)