Talk:The Joy of Cooking

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"In the mid-nineties, a controversy over the book erupted when it was discovered that the then current edition (1974 edition) contained a recipe for cooking Green Sea Turtle, an endangered species. The recipe was absent in the 1997 edition.

My copy of this book is the 1975 printing. The reference there, at page 393, is to "Sea or green turtles" (bolding sic) and not to "Green Sea Turtles". Perhaps someone with an earlier edition could check that. The copyright notice on my copy lists several reprints, but no new editions. I've moved the reference to the talk page pending the facts on the controversy being checked. Eclecticology 00:26, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

  • The 1997 edition of the book really is a different book done in the same style, and has no references to turtle recipes. The turtle recipes do still exist in current printings of the 1974 edition. Haikupoet 02:56, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


  • Here is one source for the green sea turtle controversy:
JOY OF COOKING' SEA-TURTLE DISH IS RECIPE FOR PROTEST - THE SEATTLE TIMES - January 19, 1997
since I can't provide a direct link to the article I have quoted the opening paragraph of the article.
"MIAMI - Cooking green sea turtle is simple, according to the venerable "Joy of Cooking." Simmer the meat for 35 to 45 minutes with some thyme and parsley, along with an onion stuck with cloves. Just one problem: The green sea turtle is an endangered species. Killing one or importing its meat can mean a $250,000 fine and-or a year in jail. An environmental group says the recipe is as politically incorrect as one for bald eagle stew."
I believe the "green sea turtle" and "Sea or green turtles" are one and the same. This refers to the 1975 edition of the Joy of Cooking. As such I am restoring the info though rewritten to include facts from the Seattle Times Article. --Cab88 20:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] confusing bits...

"In 1962, a revised edition of Joy was published, the first since Irma's death. The edition was released without Becker's consent. Subsequent releases of the book in 1963 and 1964 were essentially massive corrections, and Becker was known to swap copies of the 1962 edition for later corrected versions."

What the heck do those phrases mean? Kingturtle (talk) 19:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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