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[edit] "JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!" chant was a stolen idea!

Well, I've never watched the show, but can anyone remember this audience chant before the arrival of producer Norm Lebow? In the early-'80s, while heading up something he called "The Religion of Drugs", he was a recurring guest on the local (but sometimes nationally syndicated) Anaheim, Ca talk show Hot Seat w/Wally George, a pioneer in audience participation, which from its inception began with chants of "WALLY! WALLY! WALLY!", and others such as "JERK! JERK! JERK!" and (the show's phone number) "Nine, Nine, Nine - FIVE THOUSAND!". This was all later ripped-off by the failed Morton Downey Jr.. Norman Lebow was hired as a producer on the Springer Show shortly after he appeared as a "guest" claiming to be O.J. Simpson's "drug dealer" (he had previously appeared on Geraldo as musician "Rev. Bud Greene""). He was fired shortly thereafter in the well-publicised "scandal" about staging fights, one of the tabloid news shows confronted him with the news while on his way to meet with a potential guest, now a complete sellout with a haircut and a spiffy Springer Show uniform. I recall Lebow later sued the Spinger production co. for "damaging his reputation as a producer" or some such thing. More recently, he tried to sue the City of Hermosa Beach, claiming construction next door to his rental was making him sick. Roz666 22:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia or not trivia?

I think that the "trivia" tag should be removed from the "TV Show in Popular Culture" section, as I don't believe this section is merely trivia. Andy4226uk 04:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where is JS filmed?

I'm pretty sure that JS is filmed in Chicago. Anyone else have any idea? I checked their website and couldn't find any reference. Grimey 23:26, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I believe you're right, but I'm not completely sure. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 23:28, 2004 Jul 22 (UTC)

Ah hah! see List of television shows set in Chicago#J! [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 23:32, 2004 Jul 22 (UTC)

I used to live in Chicago and have attended several tapings. It's taped in the NBC building in Chicago. Teamgoon 02:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Are we sure that the white supremacist riot incident was on Springer's show? I don't remember this (not like I've seen every episode...), but it sounds suspiciously like a famous incident on Geraldo's show, during which a riot did break out, and Geraldo's nose was broken. Do we have a source on this? I see http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/07/07/springer/ which details white supremacists on the show, but never mentions a fight...--Max power 15:54, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Well, i have seen this episode not so long ago - there was a fight.Exe 12:32, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That was off of Austin Powers 2, the "My Father Wants to Take Over the World" Segment.

I removed this part "Ratings on the show skyrocketed when Springer featured representatives of a white supremacist group. The hostile confrontation between the "guests" and the studio audience quickly came to blows, and Springer himself suffered minor injuries as the TV station security cleared the stage. Since then, critics of the show charge, The Jerry Springer Show has encouraged its guests to attack one another and display more on-air fisticuffs, to keep the show's ratings high." I've tried to find a source to verify this but I haven't been successful.

lots of issues | leave me a message 14:25, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] misplaced comment

User:168.122.142.51 had this to contribute, but mistakenly placed it on the article page.

***Dispute*** Jerry Springer has publicly stated that the majority of his guests are real and that since his show is merely entertainment, he does not care either way.

— THOR 16:40, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oh, the ratings.

I remember when this show aired on the television station I work for. It was our highest rated weekday show. But we couldn't sell it because no sponsor wanted to be associated with it.

Oh, the drama!

TotalTommyTerror 19:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

That apparently isn't true in Atlanta. Jerry airs FOUR times a day here! Teamgoon 02:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History

A basic script is written for each show, which is sometimes loosely based on actual events in the lives of the guests, albeit usually embellished, or sometimes completely fabricated. Not that I don't believe this to be 100% truth, but is there any way to cite this?--Adrift* 02:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I clearly Remember watching the episode(As a re-run, I belive) that featured the bloke with the vomiting fetish on FOX8 (An entertainment channel on Australia's Foxtel Cable TV service) and immediately following the episode was the "Ripley's Belive it or not" TV show, Which featured the EXACT same guy - But as an Artist who painted by swallowing a Secret blend of paint-like substance, and then Regurgitating it onto canvas - He even at one point used the same colour as He had been throwing up onto some poor woman on the Springer show.

I can't really say if this solves the entire mystery, but it certainly would explain the frankly Bizzare colour of the Vomit he, well, vomited on the springer show. Churba 04:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong line

It's not "Don't do Oprah"; it's "Go to Oprah". BlueWiz7 05:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Commentary

Regardless of verifiability it shouldnt be deleted so here is the personal commentary rm from the main article --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 14:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC):

As a recent guest of the show, (I was on the show that aired 01-May-06, Ronald Bailey, AKA 'Veronica Haylee McKenzie'), I can attest that, on at least MY part of the show, that EVERYTHING I said on the show was REAL. Guests are NOT PAID a red cent, although expenses incurred for being on the show are reimbursed (parking fees, lost wages, etc.) There is a medical release and a waver to sign as well. In re:reality, Jerry and his producers even removed a set of guests for LYING to get on his show (they were returning guests, and a lawsuit against them is pending, to my knowledge). The guests are sequestered on the sixth floor of the Hampton Inn in Chicago, and NO ONE is allowed out without an escort from the staff/interns until AFTER the show has been taped. All meals, lodging, and entertainment is provided, as well as air/train fare, full room service and limo service to/from the point of arrival/departure. Guests are to refrain from any alcoholic beverages, as the show WILL NOT COVER, nor TOLERATE any deviant behavior of its guests (at least OFF of the show... :) 3 shows per day are filmed, with filming on Mondays and Tuesdays (mine was filmed Mon, 19-Mar-06). Jerry hosts the shows filmed on Monday, and USUALLY Steve hosts the Tuesday shows. Some wardrobe and make-up is provided to the guests (although my clothing and make-up/wig were my own). Guests do get a briefing of which parts of their stories to highlight, and which words are not appropriate for the show. The fights are NOT fake (my wife really did push me), but are edited to appear so. At no time while I was a guest of the show did anyone act without decentcy and decorum, and the staff takes pride in the authenticity of each story. Nicole and Amy (the production assistants assigned to our story) even stated "It's impossible to make up some of the stories...they're just so out there..."—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.216.72.141 (talk • contribs)

If the show doesn't provide wardrobe, how come the guys are always wearing the same dorky boxer shorts when they take their clothes off? Teamgoon 02:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, lol, and how come it's always the ones that claim to be poor (like living in a homeless center and so on) that are wearing the smartest and cleanest clothes? Never did understand that...FitzCommunist 20:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"The fights are NOT fake (my wife really did push me), but are edited to appear so." errrr, what on Earth would be the point in that? "WE WANT TO MAKE OUR PROGRAM LOOK AS IF ITS FAKE AND SCRIPTED AND THEN PRETEND ITS NOT! YEAH! LOLZZZORZ!!!!1111one!!!!1" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.123.39 (talk) 20:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Matty D?

What is the significance of the reference to the "Matty D Show" in the second paragraph?

[edit] The Spring Break Episode

I think that the event in which they had a spring break episode with a guy, his "Girlfriend" and his "friend" came on and a few days after the show,went to the news and admitted that they lied about everything and actually tricked the show into believing them needs to be mentioned in the article.

[edit] The Crowd Chants

I removed the entire crowd chants section because it simply adds to the length of the article without adding any real information or significance. It is highly doubtful it is a fully comprehensive list (unless someone has watched EVERY episode) and someone trying to find information about the show will not want to read an entire list of audience chants. If someone really feels that this section actually adds to the quality (as opposed to length) of this article, please discuss it here first before just adding it back in. --Kraw Night 22:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Murder Controvacy

I believe after one of Jerry's shows a guest was murderd though the page makes no mention of the controvacy.

This is true. It was a sort of love triangle, and the guests were from Bradenton, FL. I lived in the area at the time, and remember it being a big deal.

Then why not make a mention of it, then? Nobody's stopping you. There are plenty of sources to cite. I'll add it myself if I have to. Thanks! FitzCommunist 14:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Show is not in HD

Does anyone have a source for the show being done in HD? It's hard to believe that it is since it's cheap to make and HD production for this and any other talk shows would be too expensive and few stations have the capabilities to carry HD synidcation programming. Also, the only HD programming available in American syndication right now are Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy!

The show is AFAIK in standard-def and like any non-HD program is only upconverted to HD by the local station, which may broadcast 720p (Fox, ABC) or 1080i (CBS, NBC, MyNetwork, CW) on the main digitial channel (i.e. the ".1" channel vis-a-vis ".n" subchannels) depending on network affiliation.

Anyways, I'm going to remove this bit of misinformation. --CRiyl 00:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverend Schnorr source

The source link for Reverend Schnorr leads to an opinion piece trashing the character. It might be best to remove this source or find a different one. 76.18.122.107 05:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No "Criticism" section? Grow up!

There are criticism sections for the articles of The Maury Povich Show, The Jeremy Kyle Show, and even The Oprah Winfrey Show, so why is there no criticism section for this crude, blue-collar redneck trash??? In no way am I saying that Maury Povich or Jeremy Kyle are good shows (though I'll make an exception for Oprah), I'm just saying they're far less downmarket and stupid than Jerry Springer. So I say either include a criticism section here or remove the criticism section for the other articles of a similar nature. Either way, Jerry Springer has had far more criticism than the two put together, so we'll have to be consistent either way. There may be one mention of it proudly boasting that TV Guide magazine had called it the "worst TV Show ever", but seriously, that's not enough. There has to be a section detailing all the ruccus this has caused and if no-one else does it, and no-one else disputes that it should be added, then I shall add it myself. 172.143.14.44 19:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyone can edit Wikipedia. If you want a "Criticisms" section, go ahead and add it; no one is stopping you. Just be sure it's properly sourced. dhett ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, have started work on the section. It will grow bigger over time. 172.143.101.242 19:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I don't know what's going on here...

I'm relatively knew to Wikipedia, however I mostly know what I'm doing. But something has happened here and I'm not sure what. The sections "References", "External Links" and "See also" have "dissapear" when I cite a certain source even though I did nothing to make them do so. I've tried editing them back in, but it seems that it is only there on "Edit this page", and, for some reason, not on the page itself. I have expanded the "Criticism" section but is it just because the article's too big? I doubt it somehow. Anyways, can some more experienced Wikipedian help me here? 172.216.89.251 21:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You've made a lot of edits; I'd encourage you to use the "Show preview" button to review your edits before committing them to the wiki. That way, if you've had a problem, you can correct it right away without making it permanent. I cannot trace the issue right now, but will try to look over it this weekend to see if I can find out where it's going wrong. dhett ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Another editor already spotted it, but you opened a reference using the <ref> tag, but forgot to close the reference with the </ref> tag. It's almost always necessary with any kind of markup language to close a tag after opening it. Also, when you're citing a source more than once, name your reference so you can refer back to it. Then the reference will only appear once in the reflist, but with multiple citations. For example, you can write, This is a reference.<ref name=ABC>source link</ref>, then when you want to cite the same reference, write, This is a second citation of the same reference.<ref name=ABC/>. Note in this case that you put the slash in the opening reference tag, and this is one of the cases where it is not necessary to have a closing reference tag. The two citations will get the same reference number, and the reference in the list will have ^a and ^b next to it, indicating each citation of that reference.

I also commend you for your efforts to source your assertions. dhett ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. However, there's another thing I'm interested in, as I don't live in the U.S...is "TV.com" a well-known website for the Yanks? Because if it is, there was 6 fan reviews sent in...2 of them said the show was "perfect", but the majority (4) named it "abysmal". If, and only if it's well known, I could cite this as a source maybe? We'll see. 172.142.68.102 11:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd recommend avoiding such sources, as they don't meet Wikipedia standards for reliability. Read the Five Pillars and Manual of Style — these are tremendous resources for new and experienced editors alike. Also, if you plan to become a regular contributor to Wikipedia, I would encourage you to register. That way you will have a username and discussions like these could take place on your own personal talk page, which is a better place to conduct them. dhett ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:28, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice, and consider it done...FitzCommunist 20:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Criticism of The Jerry Springer Show

I have undone the split out of the Criticism and controversies section to a new page Criticism of The Jerry Springer Show. Splitting out this section left the main page with serious WP:NPOV problems and is not needed on grounds of article length. In any case, when splitting out a section a good summary should replace it. I should welcome any views, please. BlueValour (talk) 01:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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