Talk:The Hero with a Thousand Faces
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[edit] Post structuralism
The article states, in the criticism section, that the book violates the expectations of post structuralism. WTF? PSism was only formulated in the 60, a full 10 years, if not closer to 20 after the Hero with a thousand Faces was published... holding a work to a standard that did not even exist when it was written is plain stupid. Either it has merit, or not... and given that it's still talked about so much, I'd guess that it does. Or is it that the book has no real merit as a mythological study, but is a real neat guide for Hollywood to write good stories? --Svartalf 09:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Why don't we start the real article?
For now we have an index with an extremely brief and concise premise of the book, and a couple of quotes. The rest is devoted to trivia (mainly the influence on Star Wars!!). We need as soon as we can some analysis on the book itself, which -as it can be seen by looking at the index- is pretty varied and complex. Nazroon 04:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Moving material between Hero and Monomyth articles
If the purpose of maintaining two separate, but very similar articles is (1) The Hero article is supposed to focus more on Campbell's ideas, and (2) the Monomyth article is supposed to focus more on the application of the monomyth concept, especially in modern story-creation, then a substantial amount of material has to be re-organized between the two articles. I have started that process by duplicating material in the two articles. The next step will be to eliminate much of the duplicative material in one of the articles.
Of course, all this can be solved by merging the two articles - since the distinction listed above is pretty subtle, and is not likely to be understood by most readers (or for that matter, editors!).NorCalHistory 02:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clean-up Proposal
My intent is to begin clean-up of the following four over-lapping Joseph Campbell-related articles:
- The Hero with a Thousand Faces: An article which I understand to be a discussion of Campbell's seminal 1949 book, which applied the term monomyth to the underlying structure of the Hero's journey.
- Monomyth: An article which appears to be focused on the application of the monomyth structure in modern movies and other writing.
- The Hero' s journey (phrase): An article which is very similar to the Monomyth article - that is, a discussion of the Hero's journey concept outlined by Campbell.
- The Hero's Journey (note different capitalization and spacing): An article limited to a discussion of a separate book and documentary with that title about the life of Joseph Campbell.
The first step was to try to clean-up and re-focus the The Hero with a Thousand Faces article and the Monomyth article (only). There was modern application material in the The Hero with a Thousand Faces article that looked like it belonged in the Monomyth article, and explanatory material in the Monomyth article that looked like it belonged in the The Hero with a Thousand Faces article. Hence, the first step was to duplicate the material into what looked like the "proper" article.
The intended next step will be to then clean-up both articles - by deleting and summarizing material to better focus those two articles on their two subjects (book vs. modern application).
The following step after that will be to start a discussion about merging the Monomyth article and the The Hero' s journey (phrase) articles. Those two terms are usually used synonymously; I'm not sure that the confusion caused by two articles with almost identical topics is worth whatever benefit might be derived (but that's two steps down the road here).
So, to summarize - This is a proposal about cleaning-up these four Campbell-related articles, with the first step being cleaning up The Hero with a Thousand Faces article and the Monomyth article. (I'm going to post parts of this in all four articles). NorCalHistory 13:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you!
Excellent work, Ƶ§œš¹ - much appreciated. You are a step ahead of what I'd planned, but I've gotten tied up elsewhere for a few weeks. Thank you! NorCalHistory 15:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] David Brin
This: Novelist David Brin has been openly critical of his theories. is intriguing to me. Can someone please expand on this? I saw nothing about this in Mr. Brin's article.
Yeah, someone knowledgeable should put up what he said and when and where. 68.97.185.89 23:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Read this in undergrad
Still see the monomyth in everyday life! Food for thought. Thanks J.C.!
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The latter half of the book consists entirely of the Cosmogonic Cycle, why is there no discussion of it in the article? There is more to the book than the phases of the hero quest. I hope someone will include a summary and discussion of the Cosmogonic Cycle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.1.80 (talk) 19:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Book seems not right
I have started to read the book myself, but could not get too far into it, as I was disgusted by the way that it is based on a predetermined idea and supporting research found for it. They ignored other possibilities and any arguements to the countary of what the book was pushing. They should of included those arguements at the least, if of to refute them. As far as I am concerned, the book is rubbish. Corrupt one (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Publication dates
Book was also published in 2004 as a commemorative edition. How does that get recorded? See: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7803.html -Alex —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.166.175.2 (talk) 16:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
