Talk:The Gunslinger

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m.i.b=randall flagg

that is man in black is randall flagg and this should be mentioned (should any other misunderstandings would occur)

I don't think this is true. While Randall Flagg appears in the Dark Tower, I'm pretty sure the "man in black" in the Gunslinger is simply working for Flagg. Flagg always goes by names starting with R.F., and Walter/Marten don't fit the bill.

He is Flagg, it says so somewhere.


Would anyone be able to explicitly define what changes where made in the 2003 edition from the original? I'd be interested to know. 68.165.229.136 21:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)artemisstrong

Here's a list. --Gwern (contribs) 21:52 27 April 2007 (GMT)
I say thankya.Artemisstrong 19:48, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think Jake was pushed by Jack Mort -- the gunslinger realizes that the man in black will push Jake later, not the day he takes over Mort. This style of "knowing" for the gunslinger is used to mean that something is true throughout the series.

[edit] Synopsis

What the heck is wrong with the synopsis? It is, to put it delicately, completely unencyclopediac. Needs to be totally rewritten, IMO. RobertM525 (talk) 09:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

i agree, it reads like a book review. 222.154.0.248 (talk) 00:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I replaced it with a version from November 2007, which was much better IMO. If someone wants to tackle cleaning up the longer version, feel free; this will serve in the meantime. Jgm (talk) 01:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Still far from top shape. Put in some recent edits to try and help it. May become focus of the week for Wikiproject Dark Tower. MwNNrules (talk) 00:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Do we need a synopsis and a plot summary? Or would a more complete plot summary eliminate the need for a Synopsis category? Leafschik1967 (talk) 19:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
We just need a plot summary that is linear, and easy to follow for readers. The current one is okay, but it skips everything about Tull, and the farmer, both of which should be mentioned at least briefly. Especially Tull. The farmer doesn't matter so much, because nothing of importance happens. The next part about The Way-Station should be elaborated upon, because of Jake and Jake's short meeting with Walter o'Dim. Than a better explanation on the speaking demon (as this becomes important later in the series), and a sentence explaining their encounter with the slow mutants. Link should be provided for slow mutants, because than the phrase will explain itself. After Jake's death and Roland's meeting with Walter o'Dim are elaborated upon, than the summary should be fine. --MwNNrules (talk) 17:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I fleshed this out, just to get an outline. I figured once it was there people could modify it more easily than writing it completely from scratch. Feel free to make any adjustments if I missed anything. Leafschik1967 (talk) 21:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Good job. I completely forgot about all the flashbacks to Roland's childhood. --MwNNrules (talk) 02:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] magnum opus

I too have heard that King considers this his magnum opus, but can we get that cited before it looks like original research? Expressing my concerns. MwNNrules (talk) 00:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll check out some of my books, I know I have heard it described as such.Leafschik1967 (talk) 19:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I know where to find one. In the preface to The Little Sisters of Eluria, King states that it is probably his magnum opus. Note the probably. I just have a paperback edition. Do you have a first edition hardcover? Because than we could find the page number and cite it. Maybe it would go better as a reference here: The Dark Tower (series). In any case, it is a valuable referene to have. --MwNNrules (talk) 16:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't know that it is in that one - but I believe it is in one of the Concordances, and I have those. I'll double check when I have a chance. Leafschik1967 (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
It's in Little Sisters (Everything's Eventual with the 1408 movie cover paperback, pg.167) King starts out "If there's a magnum opus in my life it's probably the yet unfinished seven-volume series about Roland Deschain of Gilead and his search for the Dark Tower which serves as the hub of existance." Good memory MwNN. Blackngold29 21:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. We can probably use that for the reference. The copy doesn't really matter, I just like first editions. --MwNNrules (talk) 02:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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This section can be used for the members of the Dark Tower WikiProject to put forth ideas about improving the article. If you would like to adopt a section of the article to write (or team up with someone else to do so) then let us know here. There are many articles concerning novels which are Featured Class, this article should be modeled after those. Blackngold29 15:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)