Talk:The Goon Show/Archive 1

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Broadcast

A minor detail:

The Goon Show entry specifies only the BBC Home Service. However, I distinctly remember that some series were broadcast on the BBC Light Programme instead.

Tony (huge Goon Show fan in the '50s, but a newcomer to Wikipedia)

Goonshow.co.uk says that with the exception of two editions, all the shows were first broadcast on the Home Service, and then repeated on the Light Programme and the General Overseas Service.
You were right though, Wallace would sometimes introduce the show talking about the Light Service. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 16:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Bluebottle -> Kenny?

Where does this information come from? Is it pure speculation, or did the creators of South Park actually state that he was a descendant?--DooMDrat 16:26, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Film

"...the closest thing to a Goon Show film, The Case of the Mukkinese Battlehorn (which also featured Sellers and Milligan but not Secombe)" -- what about Down Among the Z Men, which featured all 3 Goons and was ostensibly a Goon movie? --Woozle 23:54, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

you could argue that the character of the Mukkinese film was more like a Goon Show story where as the Z Men film is more conventional, but with Goon style humour included, particularly from the Goon principles in it, (Milligan, Sellars) Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 15:26, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Grytpype or Gritpype?

All sources I have seen suggest the former, but I don't know about the magazine reference towards the end of the article.

-- Every source I have seen suggests it is spelt Grytpype-Thynne --Crais459 15:41, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

it is Grytpype-Thynne but the spelling is so odd that many try out something phonetic Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 15:19, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I corrected that article while I was about it. Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 15:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Teahouse of the August Goon

  • Delete - don't bother merging it - it doesn't exist - never did - it is just based on a line from one version of the episode "The China Story" Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 13:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I've redirected it here.--Drat (Talk) 10:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Fred Fu Manchu

Who played the character of Fred Fu Manchu, who was in more than one episode?

This Chinese character was definately in the episode 'Fred Fu Manchu and his Bamboo Saxaphone' (sometimes refered to as 'The Dreadful revenge of Fred Fu Manchu'). I also remember hearing him in another episode, but I cannot remember which one at the moment (it could have been 'The China Story' or 'Emperor of the Universe').--Albert 14:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Episode's proper title "The Terrible Revenge of Fred-Fu Manchu" but announced as "Fred Fu Manchu and his Bamboo Saxaphone"--Albert 19:02, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
After a bit of online searching and listening to episodes I conclude that Spike played Fred. external link. I'll update the page accordingly. --Albert 19:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
That cast list (like the chronological and alphabetical lists of shows) originates from appendices in Wilmut's book "The Goonshow Companion" based on his original research of the scripts etc at the BBC. So I suppose he should be the cited reference point when using any of those many derivative lists. AGoon 03:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Anxious Bluebottle?

Someone has added the following a while ago:

"demonstrating his Freudian castration anxiety: "Harm can come to a growing lad like that!""

Does such psychological analysis bare any relevance to Bluebottle's catch-phrases? I'm going to delete the reference to a 'Freudian castration anxiety'--Albert 18:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Besides all that, without a reference, it was essentialy original research, and hence did not belong.--Drat (Talk) 05:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Transcript references

I have edited the transcript references to point to a more up to date version of the scripts (the original homepages site ran out of space a few years ago :-)

The site (http://goonshowscripts.afraid.org/raw/index3.html) now contains a transcript of every existing Goon Show that I know of. Some only in very basic form, and in need of correction, but a start :-)

AGoon 03:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Background - collaboration and Coon references

I will change the "occasional collaboration" to "regular collaboration" - of the 238 shows described by Wilmut (referencing the scripts held at the BBC), 75 are credited to Milligan alone, 157 to Milligan and others, 6 to others (Larry Stephens or Larry Stephens with Maurice Wiltshire).

I suspect the reference to "senior programme executives erroneously" ... referring to the show as "The Coon Show" is wrong (can't find a reference to it). The show was indeed referred to, within the scripts (and ad-libs), as the "Coon Show", "Grune Show", "Goat Show" and "Babboon Show". Wilmut does mention the "Go On" show reference by BBC execs. --AGoon 01:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Dirty Jokes

I'm not sure what the wikipedia stance on this sort of thing is (I suppose I should go and look), but as it was an essential part of Milligan's sense of humour and the reason for sometimes unexpected studio audience reaction, it really should at least be mentioned in passing - I have formulated a possible entry, for the Goon Show article page, on my user page. Let me know what you think, I'll leave it a week or so before adding anything to the article page. --AGoon 09:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead and add what you've got. If I think it's inappropriate I will delete/alter it. I take it this is something for adding under 'format'? --Albert 19:02, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I've added it, but without linked references as I'm not sure they're in very good taste and this is not a slang dictionary. But if you don't believe me do a google on "The good ship venus", "pink oboe" and "chocolate speedway". There are many other examples throughout the shows. --AGoon 02:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
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