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[edit] Goodies television episodes - single episode pages

Each of the Goodies episodes has its own page on Wikipedia.

At the moment, the episode 2001 and a Bit is evidently considered not worthy enough in notability to continue as an article. As it is presumably the first of the Goodies episodes to be accessed as a Wikipedia TV article, perhaps it might be best to either try to make the 2001 and a Bit page stand on its own merits as an article in its own right, by improving the quality of it so that it will be considered acceptable as a single article — or would it be better to merge the episode pages of each of the series together (i.e. all of the information on the episode pages relating to the first series could be merged together as a article for that particular series — with the same applying the episode pages for the following series to be merged as a single article for that particular series.

Could you please say how you feel about this — whether you would like to keep the episode pages as single articles (and improve them where necessary) — or whether you feel that work should be done on merging the episode pages of each of the series together with others of the same series (1, 2, 3, 4. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9), with the object of setting individual series episode pages (i.e. combining all of the episode plot summaries and info, for a series, onto a single page, or pages). Thank you. Figaro 21:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I am not impressed that nobody seems to have seen fit to answer my query.
Two further articles are now set to be deleted. I would have been grateful for people's imput about the subject, and what could be done. Figaro 21:07, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The two episode pages (Animals and Animals Are People Too) have now been deleted. Is there anybody out there interested in saving the other episode articles????? Figaro (talk) 21:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Graeme Garden as a doctor

Re Garden being a doctor - I found a BBC link that says he is - and you HAVE to trust the BBC :) [1]

Graeme Garden studied medicine at Emmanuel College at the University of Cambridge, as well as at King's College Hospital in London. He received his medical degree in 1967.
He was studying medicine during the early seasons of "I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again", and so was unable to be a member of the cast during the third season because of a midwifery medical course in Plymouth. However, he kept on sending scripts for the radio show by mail - and rejoined the cast of ISIRTA upon his return to his medical studies in London.
His medical studies held him in good stead for his co-writing (with Bill Oddie) of some of the episodes of "Doctor in the House (TV series)", as he was able to base the medical information of the episodes on his own experiences as a medical student. On a note of trivia, Graeme and Bill wrote most of the episodes for the first season of the series and all of the episodes for the second season. Figaro 04:17, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

I've taken this from the Graeme Garden page. It's pretty POV, but maybe it could be filtered...

"The intelligent yet wholesome style of 'The Goodies disappeared from TV screens in the 1970s and 1980s to be revived later in the 20th century by artists such as Harry Enfield and Harry Hill. A strident critic of the way in which most British TV comedy lost touch with family audiences is the comic actor and co-writer of many Goon Shows Eric Sykes who established a less threatening comedy style, particularly in partnership with Carry On actress Hattie Jacques. "

Not sure there's a lot left if you filter it, but I didn't want to erase it from the universe altogether. -Nommo

[edit] theme song question

Was the theme song; 'Goodies, goodie goodie yum yum' or 'Goodies, goodie goodie gumdrop'?

"yum yum", not "gumdrop".--Drat (Talk) 05:26, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't edit other people's comments --Paul 08:36, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I must have started my edit session before you did, and been distracted by something for a few minutes. My edit overwrote yours.--Drat (Talk) 09:03, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
actually, I'm pretty sure that it is being sung by two or more people. One (or more) sings "gumdrop" while another (or more) sings "yum yum", at the same time. When I was a kid I thought they were singing "goodie goodie gum yum" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.12.24.129 (talk) 03:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Goodies userbox

Created this for fellow fans, add {{User:UBX/Goodies}} to your user page.--Drat (Talk) 03:26, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Not to be pedantic, but it's "Goody, goody, yum, yum"? Also if anyone has photos of the recent Australian tours, it would make a great addition to this page. Citizen D 22:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I've fixed the template. As for the other suggestion, I'm not sure how you would create such an image short of drawing it from scratch, as Fair Use doesn't apply on userpages. Even so, drawing something too similar could be considered copyvio.--Drat (Talk) 13:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the destruction of the episodes of "At Last the 1948 Show"

There is printed information that David Frost personally arranged for the destruction of the entire series of "At Last the 1948 Show" after he was offended by what he thought was a dig at him personally by the cast of the series.

What happened was that, in the movie "The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer" (for which two of the writers were John Cleese and Graham Chapman), the ethics of the character, Michael Rimmer, could be seen as being loosely based on the ethics of David Frost - — also, Michael Rimmer's living room in the movie strongly resembled David Frost's living room. As a result of this, David Frost angrily arranged to have the complete series of "At Last the 1948 Show" wiped for good as a punishment. The similarity of the living room in the movie to David Frost's living room, however, was merely a coincidence. The designer for the set had never been in David Frost's house and did not realise how close the set design was. As a result of David Frost's anger, the complete series of "At Last the 1948 Show" was almost lost — it was only saved when John Cleese discovered that the episodes were in the process of being wiped and fought to save the remaining 5 episodes (out of the original 13 episodes) from suffering the same fate. All the surviving material was released on DVD in 2005).

Although the information about the above reason for wiping the tapes does exist, I am not able, at the moment, to give the necessary source citation for it because I need to check through things first. When I do find the necessary citation, and can quote the source, I will be putting the information onto the article page for "The Goodies", as well as onto the article page for "At Last the 1948 Show". Figaro 22:39, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I should point out that I have written this information on "The Goodies" Talk page only because I have had to correct a statement, on the article page for "The Goodies", that the destruction cited was merely a "supposed" destruction, only (written by somebody who incorrectly assumed that there had not been any destruction at all and wrote the POV comment as 'fact'). Figaro 23:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Many episodes of '1948' survive. They are available on DVD. Nevertheless, a great amount of British television from that period has been wiped. Doctor Who fans in particular are upset about this. The simple fact is that at the time nobody thought anyone would want to see this stuff again, and they needed to re-use the tapes. There is no reason to look for an evil conspiracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.12.24.129 (talk) 03:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Goodies (TV series)

The Goodies (TV series) article has been created especially for the television series, in a similar way to the article for Monty Python's Flying Circus television series is separate to the article for the Monty Python team.

I have transferred some information concerning the television series from the main article page for The Goodies to the television article, but, unfortunately, the credits for the people who wrote the transferred sections could not be transferred with the information they supplied. The acknowledgements and credits for their edits and donations of information will, however, continue to remain in connection with the main article.

I hope that this is okay. Figaro 12:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I have included episode titles for The Goodies television series on the TV series page, and have started writing, in conjuunction with this, plot summaries for some of the episodes — 12 episodes so far). Figaro 12:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chief Inspector Nancy Bottle

Does anybody have any info about a (?unseen?) character named 'Chief Inspector Nancy Bottle'? (?a male?)

I think the Goodies told some jokes about Nancy Bottle in their TV series.

And I distinctly remember one of the Goodies' books had a humerous psychological/intelligence questionaire that showed a diagram of several drawings and asked, "Who is the odd man out?" The hand-scrawled answer was "Chief Inspector Nancy Bottle".

72.82.166.123 16:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Cheif Inspector George 'Nancy' Bottle was a character in The Goodies File. The storyline goes that a policeman, PC Bent, with the aid of the Goodies' sacked cleaner Mrs Edna Tole, are trying to discredit The Goodies so they can make a lot of money selling the story. 'Nancy' is PC Bent's superior officer. More details to follow when I find the book... Jodievdw 11:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

More details now that I've found the book... Bottle was a character in The Goodies File (1975, ISBN 0 7221 1877 5). 72.82.166.123's description of the 'odd man out' test is spot on. Later in the book he gets a congratulatiory letter from the commissioner of police 1. congratulating him on 'nailing the East Acton Tuesday Sewing Circle and Terrorist Club' 2. congratulating him on winning a ballroom dancing competition and 3. telling him to stop Bent's ingestivation into the Goodies. I don't think he turned up in the TV series. Jodievdw 06:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Over-use of fair use images

The claim to fair use for covers, screenshots and the like hinges on the assertion that the images are required to illustrate the article about the image subject. When we over-use images (such as displaying every DVD cover), that harms the fair use claim. To that end, please consider carefully what images to use, and where. Wikipedia is not a still-life you-tube. See WP:FAIR for more detail. -Harmil 16:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links

Why are there links to a few old interviews with the cast, yet a far more relevant link to the new site established to support the Goodies UK tour keeps disappearing? 144.138.31.213 06:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The links for the Goodie UK tour are still there — numbers 12 and 13 in the References section. Figaro 06:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of links, is that list due for a tidy-up and clear-out? Some of the stuff there seems kind of random. And old. 203.2.218.145 05:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

: I'll take a look at them if nobody else wants to. Does Wikipedia have a policy on linking from articles like this one to fan sites? I see there's a couple there, and not sure what criteria we use to decide which. And ditto media articles. (I'm sorry, I'm kinda new here and still finding my way around.) Jodievdw 22:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, since I made that offer I realised I've got a conflict of interest, since I'm fairly involved with a couple of the sites in question. So I'll shut up and sit down. By they way, I work with the person who posted as 203.2.218.145 (which is why it shows up occasionally as my own IP address... my bad for using wikipedia at work!) and they say they don't really feel that strongly about the links needing an overhaul. Apologies again. Jodievdw 06:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Whitehouse

Should mention not be made of the fact that Mary Whitehouse publicly stated she liked the show, which ruined it's ratings. Jrl101 (talk) 20:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)