Talk:The Fly (1986 film)

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Contents 1 Popular culture references 2 3 references to 1958 version in Trivia 4 Photo request

[edit] Popular culture references

While wikipedia discourages popular culture references anyway, mention of "The Simpsons" and "The Family Guy" are even irrelevant for "popular culture." These television shows are themselves works of fiction, not gauges of popular sentiment, nor benchmarks of "the popular." (Indeed, if they are gauges of the popular, then any creative work is likewise, and therefore the references should include all creative works, which is absurd). They do not even dominate their timeslots anywhere that they are broadcast, so a sociological argument as to their audience reach would also fail even if a coherent argument could be put as to their place in "the popular." Just because film savvy writers work in plots from films in an animated TV show does not make a statement about popular culture. I see references to these programs throughout wikipedia, and I cannot see their relevance except within their own fictional universe. Same goes for the references here and on other pages to the plotlines of manga - irrelevant. And below this posting is yet another example of the ridiculousness of it all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.29.7.147 (talk) 10:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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There's another pop culture reference: in a The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror-episode, bart becomes a fly with a humans head, and a fly becomes bart with a fly head.

[edit] references to 1958 version in Trivia

I distinctly remember Vincent Price a). seeing and reacting to the "help me help me!" scene in the 1958 version, and b). having a long speech at the end comparing his dead friend to an explorer in a strange land who made "one fatal mistake" that killed him but whose work was valuable and important. Price is also sympathetic to the son's desire to follow in his father's footsteps. This seems a long way from the wiki page's identification of the original Fly as a movie about "things man was not meant to know." If someone's seen the 1958 movie recently and can contradict me on this, feel free to change it back, but by definition most people working on this page are Cronenberg fans who aren't necessarily that familiar with the older movie, and I'm unwilling to trust their knowledge (or some snobby film critics' or even Cronenberg's, directors helming remakes being frequently rather hazy on the details of the previous version) of the 1958 version over my own memories. Derringdo 16:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo request

	It is requested that a photograph or photographs be included in this article to improve its quality.
	The Free Image Search Tool (FIST) may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

For the metamorphosis (makeup/creature effects) section, would an image be suitable? I haven't seen the film but while the description is very good, an image would probably improve this section? --Firien § 18:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

But are those pictures necessary, pretty gross actually. _Kirekinkon:_KIK_:noknikeriK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.193.46.24 (talk) 14:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

It's truly amazing how such a mediocre film has reaped so long and so meticulous an article, which it does not deserve. And still, requests for more materials are being issued "to improve the quality" (of the article). Too bad the film itself cannot be improved. It's a hopeless, lost cause. --AVM (talk) 03:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Henryrothschild (talk) 02:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)