Talk:The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face

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[edit] Celine

Uh, this not an article about Celine Dion. She may have performed a notable cover version worthy of mention but so did many others. I think the infobox should contain Roberta Flack's charted version. Cricket02 02:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more. Surely it was the Roberta Flack version that made the song famous, since it was used in Play Misty For Me and hit #1 in the US. Any versions after this are noteworthy but less so, surely?--81.132.190.18 20:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
It seems that the writer and singer of the original version, Ewan McCall and Peggy Seeger have been pushed into the sidelines by Celine Dion. Dion's version is marginal at best; Roberta Flack's is the version that most people will be familiar with. This article really should be rewritten to reflect this fact.Liquidmonkey 09:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. Just reverted User Max24 who put Celine to the top and everyone else to the bottom. I started an infox for the original Roberta Flack version - need help to complete. Also made a list in alpha order of ALL notable cover versions in all fairness. To Max24, if you want Celine to stand out so badly for this single, I suggest you put it to a separate article. And if this dominance keeps up, I suspect CONSENSUS here may just boot her out altogether, other than the mention of her name along with ALL other notable cover versions. Cricket02 14:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I expanded the Roberta Flack section to balance out the article a bit. One might consider deleting the non-notable Celine Dion version... but it probably wouldn't make a difference. The fanboys would just add it back again. Volatile 03:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I stumbled upon this page (from the Donny Hathaway bio) and just wanted to add my 2 cents that a Celine Dion reference is out of place. She should be listed, surely, as one of many performers of the track but I don't see any reason why the article should be expanded beyond that. Larswiki

Holy smokes this ISN'T a Celine Dion song and if she gets a huge section of the article then we need a huge bit for the "Canon" Roberta Flack version and bit for all the other covers. Can't someone (that'll be me but I don't want a possible vandalism tag) just edit the Celine thing down to a line or two? VonBlade 21:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree. Not confident enough in my Wikipedia-editing skills to resolve this sensitively - but the C Dion emphasis in this article is absurd. Millichip 13:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Now this is getting silly. If the definitive (ok, an opinion word, but meh) version gets a small mention, why on earth is Celine still getting half the article? Shall we have three paragraph dissertations upon all the versions? Even worse, if such a thing is possible, do we need THREE CD covers of Celines version? Two of which are the same but for a red border. This is madness. It's not WikiAdvertising. VonBlade (talk) 23:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Celine Dion text has been moved to The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face (Celine Dion version) per consensus in this section and below. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 12:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks. Much better. VonBlade (talk) 15:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Beware: Edits by Max24 bordering vandalism

Note that I left in my last revert...Max24 - Notable cover versions were in this place long before and consensus dictates that it stays. If you keep moving it, vandalism will be claimed. Cricket02 02:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other Versions

I noticed a brief mention of other versions and a section for Celine Dion (and the discussion about that above). Maybe instead of a section set aside for her like that, we could have a listing of other cover versions (with the artist / label / year / etc) as links to other pages? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.231.133.189 (talk) 06:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Good idea. Maybe you can have a go at it? Cricket02 14:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Roberta Flack.jpg

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[edit] Pop song

Clearly it IS a pop song, but did MacColl WRITE it as one, or did he think he had written a folk song. I was under the impression that he had a very low opinion of pop music.A Geek Tragedy 18:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

It's a folk song (or so he intended). And I agree with those above, the Celine Dion spam on this article is very annoying, I'm going to put it in a separate article. Merkinsmum 13:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 15:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)